Sigh.

I can never tell whether it's just newbie naivity or spam accounts when people talk about Gambler. I don't think I've ever seen a good word about him come from anyone on any forum with more than 50 posts.

If anyone ever meets Gambler, can they explain to him that word "think" doesn't start with an "f".

His forum makes for hilarious reading, full of the most sociopathic and fucked up people, or maybe they are just trolls on there. Its pretty hard to decipher between the two given the amount of bullshit that exists on the internet, especially forums related to pulling women.

I'll get back to you in 39 posts time but for time being its working for this newbie - (that said its more revelation that that has always worked than thunderbolt game changer).

To be honest guys, out of the two I think Lyons seems the nicer and more genuine guy. And I've heard really good things about him.
But I like to take a bit of advice from almost everyone on the web,
Kino-Gambler/Mystery
PEN-Lyons
Loads of stuff of course from Niel Strauss
Cocky funny-Deangelo
These are just a few that I use

But at the moment I am just reading lots of different self improvement books (confidence, body language etc)

I found these guys gave me the inspiration and direction, I would never follow one solely and would never suggest to anyone to solely follow one because chances are you will get scammed!

Afraid there's not too much naivety here!

Cheers
Bags

Bags, have you watched RSD blueprint?

I watched a couple youtube videos last night where Gambler is teaching various things, he talks some sense but I only watched a couple

If I were you, I stick with this. And really just go out and meet women.

I read/listen to most of the PUA books and audio and I prefer Natural Tim and his Flawless Natural best but that's just me.

Nah I haven't watched RSD blueprint yet, I'll start it tonight when I'm not working. And yeh I have watched a lot of gamblers stuff, but I never liked it as much as my mate Bilbo, he can really relate to that style. I much prefer listening to advice from loads of different people and making my own styles that mix what I feel suits me and my game.

Legend, yeh I'll check that out

Cheers
Bags

No idea. Best natural I've ever seen is a friend of a friend though, trust fund bloke, not that you'd tell as he's a right lazy scruff and his place is a sty. Treats the birds like shit but the guy bends reality, I've never seen anything like it.

PS