Ok, i thought id bend this onto u guys.

i was bangin pretty much the perfect woman this weekend, the girl is so uber hot she makes me wanna stab myself in the face im so jealous of myself.

now, she is polite, well mannered & doesnt like to offend people she is simply a nice girl.

further to this she isnt a priss... she loves to fuck, had some UNREAL sex, & she likes to dress up.

so you would think in a club u see this girl, she wouldnt be horrible when u apprach, she is open & polite

but .... she said

"if a guy comes and asks for my number i say stuff like, crawl round like a dog, or take off your shirt, then i laff and walk away"

this is horrible and i was like WHY!!! guys are constantly puttin their hand up he skirt, bein dickheads so EVERYONE gets the same wrath...

she said, im out with friends and i dont want guys walkin up to me when im tryin to enjoy a night out!

maybe at the bar seems natural but as soon as a guy approaches i go in defensive NO MATTER WHAT!

this made me think... women are not acting as THEMSELVES but as their defensive mechanism.

i break down barriers like this in sales, by simply telling people dont worry....

so could this work in that situation. approach a girl

and say

"look i know u probly get hit on all the time but im not gonna letch you, i just wanted to say hello and see what ur like to talk to"

that sentance seems flawless to me,

puts them at rest, makes them then feel the need to act pleasant, and shows u want more than good looks.

im gonna give i a go, but she changed my WHOLE perspective on women & approach!....

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please not that approach is only the first 20 seconds, i will most likely go back to bein a cunt after that!

Is this the chick i think it is Phil
just for the forum record this chick is unreally uber beyond fit

anyways this takes me back to Jazs post on the right way to play the game-- make your intentions obvious, this method (or my understanding of it) can never work with a chick like this because you will instantly get nuked from orbit as soon as you say..im chatting you up, your hot, i fancy you..yadda yadda
In fact the mere act of walking up to her in a club and almost hitting eye contact, even before you open your mouth will get you labelled as being on the prowl

Usually guys a girl like this ends up dating is met through her social circle, friend of a friend, work..just not the club/bar scene.

So Phil-- what was your approach and how long did it take you to get into her?

Gonna have to try this Phil - could work a treat!

Last Thursday me and JohnnyB were out in Clapham and there were these two blonde hotties hovering around us. My AA was playing up, so we stood there for a few minutes debating what to open with. In the end I was just like "Fuck it! You ready? I'm opening them!"

Walked over and said:
"Girls, sorry to interrupt, but I wanna be straight with you: me and my mate JohnnyB have just stood over there for the past 10 minutes debating on what to come over here and say to you two. So here it is: my name's Craigus, this is JohnnyB"

It was a bit of a chody opener, but it really made them laugh, and I bet no one had ever approached them like that before!

Much love,

Craigus

well this was when i first became single after the baby etc long before the i knew of PUA etc i saw this gilr doin PR work & was like

WOW, GIRLS LIKE HER ARE REAL?

in a party later that week, was in front of like 15 people talkin to her, and thought fuck it, just asked her out in front of everyone

took her number! been mates with her for years now!

also @ reflex, i think it depends on wether they fancy u, granted what jaz said may be true, but if she thinks u are hot, is she really gonna shoot herself in the foot... i think id rather do that than go all around the world pretendin im not interested, id rather be me & get a no thatn someone else & get a yes!!!

i think this may be coz im lookin for find girls who are more than just fit, maybe not as a GF but just to ease my mind that there are more than a hand full out there

Love that opener

I love "no openers" they are the perfect balance between direct and indirect. Just rock on up and say, "Hi, my names...."

"don't panic I haven't come to sell you anything"
" wow your really pritty, can I have a cigarette please"
"do you hav identification please?"
"come over here" ( just walk off, always they follow, obviously u carnt do this effectively enless you've already demonstrated high social value. Usually do this when you've already got a few woman talking to you and when u know your the life of the party)

Lines like these work, it's not what you say but how you say it.
I used to do door to door sales, and yea phil the first thing you would need to do is take down the defense barrier of the person. Usually I would just try to use commonalities, people like to dEal with and befriend people like themselves. Always cold read and make comments on the persons percieved mood.

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AJay

A bit chody, no a lot chody and I bet every chode approaches just like that.

but hey 10 out of 10 for doing it, good stuff, hope that turns out well for you and they don't flake.

If you're used to getting the word 'No' a lot PU should be a walk in the park for you.

Well done Phil you've just discovered what the persona is.