Planned Massage Routine
 

Planned Massage Routine
I am hosting my first house party in two weeks and i have set 2 girls as my targets. One of them is like my “reach” girl who I always sort of liked but who is a good friend and just that. The other one is a bit safer because a few things happened between us but not much. She is not as hot but still, I would really like to hook up with both. (I’m not planning on a threesome btw)


I’m basically thinking on a planned routine and I would like some tips.
I will start to hang around with everyone at the party which will only be in the garden (outdoors). After drinking a bit (and her too) I will start talking to her and creating some kino . After a while I will tell her if she wants to come with me upstairs to get a Vodka bottle I left in my room.


She should say yes and once we go upstairs, I play the “5 questions game” by Style to make her comfortable (by laughing). Then I would get the vodka bottle from the drawer and maybe offer some to her.


Then I would need some transition to start a massage (I ‘m sure you guys will be able to help me out) and I would need her to take her shirt off and lie in bed (If she resists, I will say: “Geez, it’s only a massage and you are already thinking about that?”) so once I get her to do that, there will be no major problems.


After that, I will start to give a massage to her, and progressively start touching her intimate parts. I don’t think she will resist due to the fact that she drank and because she should be enjoying the massage. From there, I should start making out and hopefully, sex.

So my questions are:
-What would you change/do to improve the routine?
-Can you think of a better excuse to make her come upstairs?
-Should I offer the vodka from my drawer or will it seem too obvious?
-What transition would you use to start the massage?
-Does anyone know any good massage techniques or where I could learn them?
-How would you go from “massaging” to the actual “kissing” in a subtle way?
-Any other catch phrases instead of the 5 questions game?


Thanks in advance!

All of it

why do u need an excuse, just take her hand and say UR CUMIN WITH ME, if she asks where... just say I dont know.. i u want me to make somethin up...

my cd collection!

its supposed to be obvious, ur a boy, she is a girl... u wanna fuck her.

i wouldnt id say, do u want a massage or are you going to give me one

who cares, ur gonna be bangin her 1 min after u start it anyway.

u dont be subtle, tell her to put her tongue out!



look mate, she isnt stupid, if u make it a game she will make it a game,

so if u fuck her u win & she looses...

why not just forget the game and say...

ur about to get fucked PROPERLY & 2 things can happen.

it happens.

or she objects, if she does, say! oh, i should probly get back downstairs & find someone who will then... and just forget about it!

hahahahah omg xD.
what's the whole purpose of cunning seduction techniques and the game in general?
although I appreciate your thoughts!

it sells books to people who think

"im too scared to let her know what i want, is there another way???


YES THERE IS, BUY MY BOOK NOW!!!

its all crap mate... girls want a man who will take control of a situation, not hope to chat shit untill she takes lead.

women want the shit they see in the movies, the guy who picks them yp & protects them

not the sleeze bomb who leeches on the sly after her.

i like your style.
however I am new here and I would like to consider other member's opinions :P

Just to contrast?

thats coz doin what i say is a scary prospect.

yet its the most effective way of doin it!! i know mate... ive tried the other shit

The philosophy of this forum is completely different from the mindset you're approaching it from. Most people here are an advocate of natural game, and so oppose the contrived 'then move your rook to d6' BS. Try reading some articles on RSD or better still the articles on this forum. You're planning how to act two weeks in advance of meeting these girls. That's going to fuck you up, you'll be obsessed with the outcome. Disregard everything you think you know, read up on natural authentic game, and see if it frees you from thinking that a vodka bottle in a drawer will have any significant influence over getting laid.

well, i'm a bit noob and these girls are friends of mine.
I mean, I kinda care what they think of me. That's why i try to "create" this magic or go slowly BUT get there. You know what I mean?

turns u into a control freak!

make u ill

u need to let go of care what they think

WOW. I have to be honest, I didn't read many posts here cause i'm new.
But i find ur philosophy very interesting. I'll dig into it because you might be right...

ur so insightful k

"It doesn't take two people. I'm happy here thanks"

Plan ruined. What now?

Seriously... I don't think you've thought this through properly. That's an awful pretence to get her upstairs, you'd be better off inviting her up to see your awesome collection of rocks.

Or alternatively, you could just get intimate with her as you escalate touching while still downstairs (like most would) and drag her upstairs as you turn the heat up.

now that is insightful! i like that shout, its getting stolen & used whenever my mind does that PLAY-OUT thing

Good Brain, Well done

You already know the girls so even if you are looking at canned stuff you can ignore all of the openers etc. and tbh Phil has it straight you just need to take control and be natural aka best self and thats not asking her who lies more...
best thing before your party watch at least the couple of hours of RSD Blueprint decoded (find it on a torrent site) and it'll boost your self esteem.

Your putting a lot of pressure to perform for these 2 girls rather than making them perform for you - if you just relax and make sure you are the centre of the party and having fun then later you say "hey lets go get a drink somewhere quiet" they are going to want to go with and to quote Phil
massages etc. aren't for drunken house parties...

So, from your point of view, I should forget everything and wait until the party and just develop freely?

ye, and u should be arrogant, cocky and dominant...

dont ask if they want a drink just get them a drink,

take control, make discussions for them!! women love to be lead!

they are lazy slags

i fucking like your attitude guys. i think i'm in the right place.
I think I have been always looking for "game theories" and magical formulaes and things like that because i'm not someone who's very... extroverted.

But your points made me see things differently and I am already downloading RSD Blueprints decoded.

Any other material I should consider?

Cheers

What's the point of 1984, Alice In wonderland and The Hitch Hikers Guide to The Galaxy?

lol

there isnt, its fun to read... stop surrounding urself with pick up.

just learn to be a bad ass mo fo with attitude, and do whats interesting... pua comes second

hahhaha.
so that's the moral to the story :P

i wonder why is this place called puaforum xD

I'll investigate on that tomorrow. :D

ok so when you get these girls to your house your proberly going to think shit like "oh should i do this" "oh should i do that"...... if you do.......... then your doomed.... enless you say to yourself "FUCK IT" and just do it....... You will be so rapped up in your own head of negativity that you will come across like it! you need to act on the spurr of the moment... the more emotionally excited and in the moment you are the better you will respond to objections and the more likely you are to achieve your goal..... the shit you read does work, but u must do it spontaniously..... so u must not plan a single thing!!!! the only thing u need to plan is.... "girls come to house". Then your set!!! good luck son!

emotionally excited may have been the wrong term..... wen i get like that i just speal of words and everything seems to go down very well.... its like im not thinking in the past or future but in the very moment.... the rush of emotion i get is proberly the good feeling of knowing everything i say is the shit...

Well, 1984 and the Art of War I did read.

I heard somethings about the others so I might consider reading them in the future ;)

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why???? :confused:

DjSash/

Planned routines can work, but your routine has many flaws.
Going direct and natural is good but it requires a level of confidence, if you fake the confidence you're still being fake.

Ps do these girls like you, as in attracted to u.

i think this thread & that wink pretty much proved my point

what kind of flaws?
i will be under little effects of alcohol so my confidence will boost partially.


these girls aren't currently attracted, however they have been very good friend in the past but now, not that much. I nearly made out with the not so hot one but we didn''t cause she had a boyfriend. And the hot one, well I know her since ages ago and I really like her and we are friends.
I just decided i want to hook up with her now :P

Unless your understanding of applied psychology and social awearness is shit hot. it's very difficult to perdict a persons response making it near impossible to create a good planned routine. A routine will only work when your social awearness is good and when you understand how to create attraction. You're planning to far ahead.
What are you trying to achieve with the 5 question game?.

5 questions game
 

Well, these girls laugh a lot and even more if they are drunk. So with the 5 questions game i will use it as an "ice breaker" for when we are alone in the room so it doesnt seem too obvious at the beginning. I will start creating "the ambience" and physically seducing her by doing the massage so the 5 questions game is just a distraction or an excuse to lead to a massage i.e:

"Lets play 5 questions game, who ever wins, gets a massage"
She should say: "sure!"
But she doesnt know that Im the one who is going to win.
When she finishes with the massage, i offer to swap and there's where i ask her to take her top and the action starts. :2guns:

DjSash, Listen to Phil. Drop everything you are thinking, and just tell her you're guna fuck her. I am not as point blank forward as he is, but I am incorporating that attitude into my life and it does work.

That may be the best way to go, but what if thats not his personality, an indirect approach may suit him best. Plus if hes acting out of character isint that just as fake as using a plan.

just think of routines as vessels to portray your personality, a routines is no good all by itself, you have to make it good. You should only use the 5 question game if you really like playing it, if you only use it to get the girl, it will come across all wrong. there just tools you can use,there not to be relied upon.

Your character changes for various situations anyway, you are a different person with your partner opposed to your friends, you are a different person with your work colleagues, a different person with your parents and a different person with people you've never met. Most people are completely different online compared to offline.

You have to have different versions of yourself in order to suit environments and to achieve various goals. Are all of those fake?

You are always you. You can't fake you, you are just different versions of yourself for various situations.

This being fake thing is often misconceived as some form of lying, but it's really an entirely different thing. Trying to change the way he's always approached attracting others is not lying, it's trying something new.

no its helping him realise strength ... the only reason he wont do it is because of him fear.

without fear what would he do

he would just make it happen

ok, this is how you do it. If you dont already have a lock on your bedroom door then get one. Lead her to your room stating u have something really important to tell her. Lock the door behind you and say "you know i joined a pua forum to find advice about how i can fuck you, but then i realised all i needed was a lock. Thanks to AJay for such amazing advice".

AJay

This is a much scarier version of Phil's rape approach.

Plus, the vodka in the drawer approach, trying to get her to have a drink before you fuck her... Some may have ethics issues lol.

well the field test worked in Austria

I'm unconvinced of this one. If someone is capable of coherently consenting then there's no ethical issue. People do have a tendency to overplay the "I was drunk" thing though if they think they're going to be negatively judged by those around them. The whole "taking advantage" thing being placed on a guy and whatnot.

That said, I'm stressing the coherent consent part. If they're absolutely fucking wasted it's not much different to using a date rape drug.