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dan300 30-06-2021 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaz (Post 132428)
Were they unmasked?

They're 100% open, bro.

No more restrictions. No more masks. No more pandemic.

stonecastle 08-07-2021 08:28 AM

Unfortunately the pandemic is still here with cases rapidly rising. But the vaccinations are vastly reducing the numbers of deaths and hospitalization and should soon lead to herd immunity in which the virus runs out of people to infect and cases drop down to nothing. That might take another three months.

dan300 08-07-2021 11:08 PM

I'm past caring about most of this shit now. In fact some shit actually provides amusement.

Like the way it automatically makes you an ANTI-VAXXER just because you aren't interested in this injectable.

You laugh because you think I'm crazy.

I laugh harder because you're an obedient little idiot.

I'm very comfortable remaining in the tightening minority.

I will not give in to societal and psychological pressure.

dan300 10-07-2021 04:31 PM

I saw a phrase on Twitter the other day "Vaccine side effects are your body's way of telling you it's been poisoned" and it's been on my mind since.

The reason being that that's directly relevant to one of the primary reasons I'm against having any of these injectables - why on earth would I willingly put myself through an ordeal that physically puts you out of use for up to a week? What the fuck is in a substance that does that to you?

I don't give one fuck about "science" or the most legit of legitimate medical professional opinions, there's a 100% chance that you're never going to convince me to take it voluntarily.

stonecastle 12-07-2021 11:25 AM

There is a hell of a lot of false and inaccurate information going around on the internet about the covid vaccines. But the vaccine roll out is one of the surest way to end the pandemic. As it gives around 95 per cent protection against becoming seriously ill with the disease and almost a hundred per cent protection against dying from the disease. It is strange how the anti lockdown movement is made up mostly of people who are against all covid precautions like use of hand sanitizer and face mask wearing.

Dr_Zed 14-07-2021 10:44 AM

It bothers me a little how most if not all of the vaccines out there are not based on traditional technologies. Isn't the AstraZeneca one an mRNA vaccine which encodes the spike protein? It's new technology, with little known long term effects.

I've seen at least one case of anecdotal information on vaccine side effects being suppressed (on Instragram), which frightened me.

Double plus ungood.

Buzz9 14-07-2021 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stonecastle (Post 132613)
There is a hell of a lot of false and inaccurate information going around on the internet about the covid vaccines. But the vaccine roll out is one of the surest way to end the pandemic. As it gives around 95 per cent protection against becoming seriously ill with the disease and almost a hundred per cent protection against dying from the disease. It is strange how the anti lockdown movement is made up mostly of people who are against all covid precautions like use of hand sanitizer and face mask wearing.

Are you sure you know what the false and inaccurate information is? Most vaccines take 10 - 15 years to fully test, how safe it's will not be known for years.

Ivermectin has a 40 year history and is very effective at reducing symptoms based on the studies they have done so far. Plus the morality rate of Covid for those under 50 and in good health is tiny, like 0.02%.

Jaz 15-07-2021 01:19 PM

I think what it comes down to, is most people (like 99.9% of FB and Twitter) do not know what the fuck they are talking about when it comes to both vaccines and viruses.

With that said, I am a great believer in trusting ones gut. So go with that.

markuk 17-07-2021 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaz (Post 131652)
I have seen this country gripped by fear, near totally and utterly destroyed. People out of jobs, businesses going under, actual sick people being pied away from GP's who hid away and refused to see anyone and of course - the mental health of most people destroyed. All because of what? This fucking virus which with a years worth of hindsight has shown us that, for most people it really is no big deal. Now this is coming from a guy that last Jan was predicting the end of the world, I was saying this was the big one. The Zombie apocalypse. I saw the video coming out of Wuhan of people foaming at the mouth and dropping in the streets. Have I seen that here? Nope. Not at all. It's sad that allot of old people lost their lives, but they should have been better protected by the GOV.

I resent the fact that people are not angry. It pisses me off so much that there were no riots. People just bent over and locked themselves in their rooms scared. It was fucking pathetic. And now the masses will take a vaccine that Daddy has told them will give them some good boy points and yet they STILL walk around with masks on in fear.

The Gov have now brainwashed people that freedom is not theirs, it's a reward for compliance and it's something that can be taken back at a moments notice.

The data literally shows us that this virus is dangerous to the elderly and vulnerable, so it makes sense to protect and "vaccinate" them. So why in the fuck are we jabbing school kids now?

Something very, very evil has occurred the past year. I dunno what happened or who's behind it. But I for one will no longer comply, I wont be taking my yearly dose of inoculation in the hope I won't be locked in my home and told I can't hug my mum, they can fuck off. Anyone that complies with any of this shit is less than half a man to me now. That's how I feel.


These are pretty much my thoughts. I really have lost confidence in a lot of people. That said some of the weird friends I made through pick-up have also seen this craziness so I do not feel alone. I was in vietnam until March last year and flew back to London. I supported the goverment for about 2 weeks when it became clear in April this virus was only going to kill old and vunerable people who would have probably died in the next 12 months anyway.

People are generally idiots, they keep going on about the number of cases, with no refeence to the number of tests when comparing other countries etc. Where is the evidence that people who are asymptomatic spread the virus? Where is the debate on mainstream media?

Actually I don't think people have been scared enough to riot. The middle-classes have it easy, working from home, netflix, ordering off Amazon, jerking off to porn.

That said there have been big protests in London. However, try searching on the internet to find when the next one is, you won't find anything.

As for the vaccine, I took it. I believe it's safe and I wanted to travel (I am not scared of Covid), that was the main reason. I'm in Poland now (I was here until November last year when I moved back to London hoping this madness would end in the summer). (I also normally take the flu jab and I saw this as being the same, i'd rather not get ill - I worked in pharma for many years so do trust the vaccines).

One of the benefits for me is I can work remotely and pull in a UK day rate. Poland is pretty open although of course that could all change come October.

dan300 18-07-2021 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by markuk (Post 132746)
Where is the evidence that people who are asymptomatic spread the virus?

This, right here. This is something that really troubles me. There's some very deep psychologically manipulative shit going on with this one.

You're just trying to go about your day. You just want to proceed with living your life, minding your own business, doing your own thing. Yet everywhere you turn you're hit with YOU COULD BE TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT!!

Translation: "You may well be, and by all means, probably are totally healthy, just like you always have been, but we're just going to assume you're a disease spreading leper anyway, without any evidence whatsoever that you are in fact, spreading CovAIDS"

It's like, no matter what you do, we've metaphorically got you by the balls... well, they can stick their theory up their asses.

As for the idea of riots, if Boris were to turn around and declare mandatory vaccination or XYZ consequences will start to happen to you, he can expect the purge overnight.

They know that, though. And that's why they'll play the longer, manipulative game.

Eventually, those of us who refuse this injectable will be a minority group, say, 5%, or 3%, or whatever. Then we're outnumbered. Then it'll be easier, and more justified to continue segregating and ostracizing us, with the end goal being to coerce us into giving in and having "the jab".

Fuck off, will always be my answer.

stonecastle 19-07-2021 09:03 AM

The fact is that the covid vaccines have vastly reduced the death rate from the virus. Deaths are now ten to twenty times less for the number of people infected. And the vaccination programme is still far from finished as so far only 36 million people in Britain gave been vaccinated. There are millions more to go. And as more people get vaccinated so hospitalizations and deaths continue to fall.

dan300 19-07-2021 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stonecastle (Post 132775)
The fact is that the covid vaccines have vastly reduced the death rate from the virus. Deaths are now ten to twenty times less for the number of people infected. And the vaccination programme is still far from finished as so far only 36 million people in Britain gave been vaccinated. There are millions more to go. And as more people get vaccinated so hospitalizations and deaths continue to fall.

Have you seen some of the adverse reactions some people have had? Just pop on to Piers Morgan's tweet from the other day where he said "Get the jab" and scroll down a bit. You'll see dozens upon dozens of individuals posting photos of their entire body covered in blisters and rashes. Amongst other bad side effects.

Also, a lot of people have died as a direct result of the vaccine itself.. I'm unsure of exact numbers but I think something like 60 deaths per 250k injected (although you won't hear that on the news).

But apparently it's worth it for the greater good, right?

stonecastle 19-07-2021 11:29 AM

I am sure that the number of bad covid vaccine reactions have been exaggerated and the number of deaths too. Because if you vaccinate several million people then many thousands of them will die of other causes that they were going to die of anyway. So I think only a small number have died as a direct result of reactions from the vaccine itself. Most people I know who had the vaccine only reported feeling very tired for two days after their vaccination. The vaccination programme means that we can now treat covid 19 like the flu and have far fewer restrictions.

dan300 19-07-2021 09:52 PM

Yeah, that rushed, experimental vaccine.

I'll give it a few years before I even consider considering it.

Lockdown in August or September, I reckon. Then a push for vaccine mandatorization.

Then the historic riots of 2021.

Stein 20-07-2021 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 132770)
This, right here. This is something that really troubles me. There's some very deep psychologically manipulative shit going on with this one.

You're just trying to go about your day. You just want to proceed with living your life, minding your own business, doing your own thing. Yet everywhere you turn you're hit with YOU COULD BE TRANSMITTING THE VIRUS AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT!!

I mean, that's not unique to covid at all. A lot of diseases have incubation periods. This is why you have to wait a couple weeks to get tested if you think you might have chlamydia for example.


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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 132779)
Also, a lot of people have died as a direct result of the vaccine itself.. I'm unsure of exact numbers but I think something like 60 deaths per 250k injected (although you won't hear that on the news).

But apparently it's worth it for the greater good, right?

So where did you get this number from, and how do you know it's reliable? I don't know how you could ever be sure of that if you don't give a fuck about science or professional opinions

stonecastle 20-07-2021 02:06 PM

If everyone had obeyed the lockdown rules from the beginning and the government had banned all foreign travel into and out of Britain then I think this country would have beaten the pandemic by last summer.

dan300 21-07-2021 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 132801)
I mean, that's not unique to covid at all. A lot of diseases have incubation periods. This is why you have to wait a couple weeks to get tested if you think you might have chlamydia for example.

Still a convenient little tool of psychological warfare. I'm not saying any of this shit has been planned by the Illuminati or any of that nonsense, just that all these smaller components put together are the perfect recipe for mass control.

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 132801)
So where did you get this number from, and how do you know it's reliable? I don't know how you could ever be sure of that if you don't give a fuck about science or professional opinions

The only thing that's certain about that number is that I can't be certain how true it is. I think I saw it on a Twitter post or article that I didn't pay too much attention to.

I can't help but recall, however, some disturbing videos I've seen. One of which was a guy being stretchered out of a mobile vaccination center, twitching and shaking, having a fit at best. I don't know if the guy survived or not. Sure, it could be argued that some people are simply going to react badly and that's just an unfortunate and necessary evil of the circumstances.

I'm unwilling to take that risk, though.

Stein 21-07-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 132820)
Still a convenient little tool of psychological warfare. I'm not saying any of this shit has been planned by the Illuminati or any of that nonsense, just that all these smaller components put together are the perfect recipe for mass control.

Occam's razor though. You might not put a goofy name on it but this still reduces to global conspiracy.

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 132820)
The only thing that's certain about that number is that I can't be certain how true it is. I think I saw it on a Twitter post or article that I didn't pay too much attention to.

I can't help but recall, however, some disturbing videos I've seen. One of which was a guy being stretchered out of a mobile vaccination center, twitching and shaking, having a fit at best. I don't know if the guy survived or not. Sure, it could be argued that some people are simply going to react badly and that's just an unfortunate and necessary evil of the circumstances.

I'm unwilling to take that risk, though.

The thing is you're making a bunch of unverifiable assumptions there too. So someone left a vaccination centre on a stretcher. Doesn't say anything about causation, or other things that might have been at play. Think about how many people are in vaccination centres globally, something like that happening is statistically likely even if that many people we queueing for ice cream.

Who on here has had covid?

stonecastle 21-07-2021 02:28 PM

By the way this a very good informative website about the pandemic: www.unmask.org.uk There is a lot of useful information there.

Jaz 23-07-2021 02:39 PM

Vaccine passports required for nightclubs confirmed for September. Welcome to the start of medical apartheid.

dan300 23-07-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaz (Post 132876)
Vaccine passports required for nightclubs confirmed for September. Welcome to the start of medical apartheid.

A small part of me is somewhat fascinated by all this shit.

At the very beginning and shortly after, I recall expressing some of my thoughts publically on Facebook about where I think this could end up. I pointed out what I knew about tyranny and how it's introduced in very small, seemingly insignificant steps (there were a lot more detailed points and analysis but I don't remember it all at this moment).

Of course, I wasn't in any way suggesting it was part of the NWO or any of that garbage, I was just letting it be known what I had, and was observing going on around me.

Many people agreed, were shocked because they could see the potential of what I was alluding to, or simply understood where I was coming from, but most will have stayed silent, probably laughing behind their screens like "listen to Mr. Crazy"

I wonder what the people who thought I was crazy think now? Well sadly, most of those people probably think "yayyy gimme a jab and a passport, the clubs are open"

Yeah, I was just being crazy tho.

dan300 03-08-2021 04:23 PM

The incentives/bribes are starting to pick up the pace.

Over here, to try and get more young people to "get the jab", we're giving them free tickets to events and gigs. There's also something about a £100 high street voucher, although I'm not sure if that's for everyone or just the DOUBLE VAXXED PEOPLE, I don't pay too much attention.

Offer me something like 10k and that might entice me.

Dr_Zed 03-08-2021 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 133119)
Offer me something like 10k and that might entice me.

Your opinion on whether to take it or not is changing?

dan300 03-08-2021 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zed (Post 133121)
Your opinion on whether to take it or not is changing?

It was more of a joke however 10k of hard cash and I'd probably get in the ring with Mike Tyson, which I'd deem even more life-threatening.

No, my opposition is in fact increasing. All this effort to coerce and bribe people just repels me even more.

Check this out https://www.gov.uk/government/public...analysis-print

Scroll down to Annex 1 and you can click into each of the vaccines individual, and complex reports of adverse reactions and deaths.

I think in total it's coming close to 1600 deaths and well over 1,100,000 adverse reactions. That's just in the UK.

You won't see that on the news though.

stonecastle 05-08-2021 12:22 PM

New covid vaccinations have slowed down so much that it will now take until 2026 to fully vaccinate everyone who is now currently over 18. By the then the pandemic will most likely be long gone!

Dr_Zed 05-08-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 133127)
It was more of a joke however 10k of hard cash and I'd probably get in the ring with Mike Tyson, which I'd deem even more life-threatening.

Speaking of hard cash, I find it an arse ache that the government has hiked prices up on compulsory hotel quarantine, and simultaneously shuffling which countries are amber/red (like Mexico) in the next few days.

I sometimes wonder how much of this is politically motivated.

dan300 06-08-2021 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zed (Post 133156)
Speaking of compulsory hotel quarantine..

..my nephew went to Liverpool for a lad's weekend last week, going through Dublin airport. On his return, he was arrested by the Gestapo and held against his will in a Dublin hotel whilst they awaited the results of a test. He was the only one held and it was because some test papers he had were a few hours out of date or something. Oh, and of course, he's hit with the bill for this 4-night privilege.

The outlook is very dark (it always has been, it's just that this new world is now 'normalized' i.e. the majority are either conditioned or have simply given in) and I'm perplexed at how so many people are just so willingly playing along. It's all very worrying for those of us who can see, aren't afraid to say what they see, and are unwilling to just bend over and take whatever the government is dishing out.

I'm fearlessly going to remain in the minority. Fuck the system.

dan300 07-08-2021 11:13 PM

This guy gave me confidence and pride in standing my motherfucking ground...

https://youtu.be/-sjRxrH5QL0

As an extremely prominent historian, he knows what the fuck he's talking about when comparing what's expected of us, to tyranny.

Losus 09-08-2021 09:27 AM

120-page PDF of adverse Covid vaccine reactions, from stroke, aneurysm, paralysis, heart attacks and sudden deaths - [url]https://www.pdf-archive.com/2021/03/08/copy-of-reports-of-injury-after-v/[/url]

Nothing on this earth is going to make me put that shit into my body.

markuk 10-08-2021 09:25 PM

Absolutely moronic, you probably have that much chance of getting adverse reactions from taking paracetamoll but you still pop those bad boys don't you.

kowalski 11-08-2021 04:28 AM

I do not.

I assume people who take paracetamol just take pills when there isn't anything really wrong with them as they will have no effect on your recovery and little effect on your sypmtoms. That's equally as moronic as Dan, just at the opposite end. That is to Dan's position as antifa is to proudboys.

I live alone, work from home, socialise in open spaces, purchase online, I'm very occasionally indoors for seconds with other humans. Exception to all that being that sex with a handful of girls during that time. I don't drink or smoke, under 10% fat, early 40s, exercise daily, eat healthily, take vitamins, get a lot of sun. Less than 1 in a thousand people have it.

I can't go around taking precautions for every negative possibility with a greater than 1:1,000,000 chance, I'd never leave home... or possibly never go home because being at home alone doing nothing in particular is possibly statistically more dangerous than Covid.

I strap tiny wheels to my feet every morning, then dance around moving vehicles, balance on handrails and jump off monuments and I push myself and I fall... often. I take precautions, I wear a helmet, wrist and elbow protection for that... and shin protection if I'm doing rails.

If I had to get on public transport to go to an office every day and / or lived with other people who do that. Or if I was a just a fat piece of shit. I'd have been early in the vax queue to get it.

The most moronic thing is the very idea of using a vaccine to deal with this issue and one that doesn't even prevent it's spread... what are we doing here? Giving it hosts while it evolves? Ok great, let's do that.

It had such a low transi¡mission rate. We only needed to reduce it from roughly 1.1 to <1. Rapid testing could cost less than 1 euro retail and be used by multiple people at a time. If govs didn't insist on everything being done with nurses and registers and this would have gone away after just a few months with no lockdown simply by letting people and businesses buy tests and test when they want and treat those test results however they want. The transmission rate would drop below 1 and that's all you need to get rid of infectious anything. Vaccine: expensive to produce "free" to take (aka I have to pay towards everyone's or I'll go to prison). Rapid testing: almost free to produce very expensive to take.

But, you know, go tell these kids they are morons... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-RuvUkcyJI


Peace,

kowalski

markuk 11-08-2021 08:41 PM

People saying the covid vaccines are dangerous is moronic and not based on fact.

Covid is going to be endemic and is not going away. Everyone will catch it sooner or later, just like the flu or a common cold.

There is very little conclusive evidence which shows how the virus is transmitted. Bottom line is you will catch it at some point.

Statistically people with a similar age & health to you (and I) are unlikely to die from Covid, perhaps slightly more at risk than the flu.

However, why would I want to chance being in bed for 4 days with a temperature of 38’c.

We’re of a similar age, I run 40 miles a week, have no underlying conditions so I know I’m not at high risk of dying from Covid or the flu. However as there are safe vaccines for both which reduce the chances of becoming unwell, I was prepared to take them.

The use of the vaccine was to protect those who are at greatest risk, obviously the elderly with underlying conditions. Do you believe the vaccines did not protect this group ?

There could be people reading this forum who are not ‘kids’ and are in higher risk groups. they should take the vaccines.

I agree with your sentiments on lockdowns, I believe they have had little or no effect on the virus, certainly nothing which can be proven by science. Testing for the virus seems like a waste of time and proven unreliable.

Shielding of the high risk groups and providing them alone with vaccines would have been the best course of action.

Unfortunately the west is still determined to give vaccines out to groups not in this group, when we could be helping poorer countries. I would have happily forgone taking a vaccine if I knew it would go to someone else in a high risk group.

kowalski 12-08-2021 05:04 AM

There is no bottom live where the chance of me catching it = 1. That’s a ridiculous thing to say. Just take a few seconds to think of some examples where that might not be the case. I’m not willing to do that for you. If you fail to think of any, you aren’t relevant in this conversation,

I don’t take the flu one either. I’ve not had the flu since I was a child. I’ve had a cold, that’s all. There’s no way you take precautions for all the things that have such a low chance of actually harming you.

High risk groups. Aren’t you the little fake philanthropist. Shut the fuck up, virtue signaling cuck.


Peace,

kowalski

markuk 12-08-2021 05:43 AM

What a retarded reply, you really are a full on spastic.

Are you still walking around Morocco with a cat on your shoulder looking like a disheveled tramp.

That was the most pathetic looking photo I’ve ever seen for the record.

Please re-share on this thread for amusement(s).

kowalski 12-08-2021 06:51 AM

I’m actually dismantling your bullshit. Your reply is not an argument.

“I would have happily forgone taking a vaccine if I knew it would go to someone else in a high risk group.”

When is this happening? What a weird fantasy. Telephone call… “hi markuk we got a shot here it’s for you or someone else in a high risk group. Your choice.” … “I will happily forego…” Stop blinding us with your virtue.

I never walked around Morocco. Photo with cat was a video shot in Cordoba near my home. I was wearing a brand new Tilly hat, brand new oakleys, brand new Gregory ultra lightweight packpack, brand new camelpac, brand new zoom H4n. You know, all those items commonly associated with disheveled tramps.

When I was hiking through the mountains of Andalucía in August heat a few weeks later, I'm sure I did look disheveled and trampish at times. That's what happens when you are doing that kind of cool ass adventure.

Nice to know you are keeping track of my story. I have no idea who you are.


Peace,

kowalski

markuk 12-08-2021 07:36 AM

You spend too much time on youtube, using terms like virtue signalling.
I don't need to signal my virtue, everyone reading my posts appreciates my virtue regardless.

You just don’t like it when someone points at your own bullshit.

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 133271)
I live alone, work from home, socialise in open spaces, purchase online, I'm very occasionally indoors for seconds with other humans. Exception to all that being that sex with a handful of girls during that time. I don't drink or smoke, under 10% fat, early 40s, exercise daily, eat healthily, take vitamins, get a lot of sun. Less than 1 in a thousand people have it.

I can't go around taking precautions for every negative possibility with a greater than 1:1,000,000 chance...


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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 133279)
I’ve not had the flu since I was a child. I’ve had a cold, that’s all.


Right so we’ve established you’ve had the flu and a cold before but you still think living alone etc mitigates your chances of ever catching Covid, based on kowalski’s own in depth knowledge of how viruses spread.


Thanks for elaborating on your clothing brands in the cat on a Mancunian photo. So you’re saying a glamorous tramp (I think).

kowalski 12-08-2021 09:56 AM

Hey Mark, here's what you should do. You should realise deeply the present moment is all you ever have. Make the Now the primary focus of your life.

lol this guy

I'll deal with the nonsense you wrote later.


Peace,

kowalski

markuk 12-08-2021 12:01 PM

How about answering this nonsense to, instead of focussing on 'virtue signaling'.

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Originally Posted by markuk (Post 133276)
The use of the vaccine was to protect those who are at greatest risk, obviously the elderly with underlying conditions. Do you believe the vaccines did not protect this group ?


kowalski 12-08-2021 12:24 PM

Patience, faggit. You'll get yours.


Peace,

kowalski

markuk 12-08-2021 02:45 PM

So affectionate, Mancunian charm shining through


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