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Stein 03-03-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jiggydog (Post 130635)
The question is whether you get a chance to show those qualities or not. I.e. a fair chance

What constitutes a fair chance? What aspects aside from race would you like women to be neutral about in order for you to consider it fair? And how do you plan on ever making that happen in a way that is also fair to them? For that matter what arbitrary preferences of yours are you willing to overlook in order to be fair to them?

jiggydog 03-03-2021 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 130638)
What constitutes a fair chance? What aspects aside from race would you like women to be neutral about in order for you to consider it fair? And how do you plan on ever making that happen in a way that is also fair to them? For that matter what arbitrary preferences of yours are you willing to overlook in order to be fair to them?

It comes down to whether you believe racial profiling in dating is because someone just doesn't genuinely like the aesthetic, or whether you think it is based on connotations the skin colour brings. If not going out with a black, brown, yellow guy etc. is exactly the same as not liking a small nose, big nose, toned body, skinny body etc then I'm cool with that.

What i'm not cool with is avoiding certain races because you think skin colour comes with certain (lower) status, behaviours, etc. You disagree?

Perhaps I should have explained this in my initial post BUT my experience is that racial preferences in dating comes very often (not always) from pre-conceptions of what said person behaves like: social status, background, etc. NOT because girls like a specific shade of skin because it looks nice. I don't even think the prejudice is conscious a lot of the time, so much of it is learnt. Bring on a coloured James Bond or a chinese Bruce Springsteen

Stein 03-03-2021 04:13 PM

I don't disagree with that. But I don't think you can ever have a real way of separating aesthetic preference from those associations. People often aren't even conscious of the associations they hold, why something is or isn't attractive to them etc on a conscious level, and they certainly aren't in control of the things they are attracted to on a subconscious level.

The thing is fundamentally all dating preferences are going to be due to associations we've built up in our mind. They are discriminate between people in a bunch of arbitrary ways, but if we're going to treat people with respect for their autonomy we have to treat them as valid. Now if we're talking about long term cultural changes to make things racially egalitarian, I'm on board, but for the time being it's no one's place to treat people's personal preferences as in some way invalid.

Which brings me to the thing I've been wondering since the jump. Why did you post this? What prompted you to? And what do you, on a personal level, plan on doing about it?

kowalski 03-03-2021 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jiggydog (Post 130634)
More evidence of your issues. Keep lying to yourself bro

That’s not an argument, dickless. My points stand.


Peace,

kowalski

Dr_Zed 04-03-2021 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Isildur1 (Post 130645)

One example my friend met a Russian girl on tinder in Shanghai that was on several dating apps and was swiping around the world from UAE to London.it was quite clear she was playing the field and trying to get the best high quality valuable guy in her life. Eventually she met an Arab guy who flew her out to Dubai.

Jesus crap. I didn't realise this kinda high risk activity (on the guy's behalf) still happened. It's basically like money is no option. I'd dread to think what'd happen if he lost his money.

Dr_Zed 08-03-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Isildur1 (Post 130653)
This stuff is very common in today’s era of Instagram and tik tok. Heck just a walk around Knightsbridge and you’ll see a lot of mixed raced dating couples where the man is from Saudi Arabia and the woman is from Russia it’s becoming more and more common.

Do you reckon one should go around London deliberately looking as ridiculously rich as possible then?

I was thinking for hilarity:
- A suit and trousers made out of cash (supergluing 20 pound notes to it as a bonus)
- golden fedora
- loads of golden chains and bling
- Shoes with goldfish at the bases as an added thing to increase perceived height
- perfume that smells of money

stonecastle 16-05-2021 09:31 PM

On the subject of race. I always find foreign European women far easier to approach than British women. I also have far less approach anxiety when I hear a woman with a foreign accent as well. There are loads of European women in London as well.


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