So going out and picking up girls has become fun and when I can fit it in I really enjoy it.

2 things I'm confused about.

1. So now I'm starting to meet up with some girls for a second time and its been great... most of the time, sometimes though (like this afternoon) you realise that she is actually pretty boring and hard work. Does anyone have any good ideas on what to say to these girls when you need to back track when you have already invested time in them.

2. The other thing is how would be a good way to let girls know from the beginning that you might be seeing other girls at the same time? I figure I'd rather be honest about it from the beginning but not sure how to get it across in a way that sounds good.

Any advice would be great.

IMO...

1 - im not a bastard but i tend to just not end up seeing them again for whatever reason. We are all out there looking for people and not every meeting has to develop into something - that is her issue to realise. I only really give reasons if she knows people i know and it could mess up my future game with these girls.

2 - You can get in to the friend zone if you tell her you are seeing someone else. She is assuming her contact with you is on an exclusive level, let her role with thinkin its exclusive until you NEED to do something about it. Use it as a form of social proofing - let her know other girls like you, if she likes you she will be jealous which is a good driver to you.

1- Not sure what you are asking for here? when you say backtrack, do you mean to end your interest in her? if so I have been on 'dates' where I've realised I actually can't be bothered with it, she is literally not worth the effort. I find that the wasted time can be adequately compensated by making the most of the evening, ordering expensive wines and food, enjoying it and then excusing myself and doing one just before the bill arrives. It has the added benefit of course, of leaving her in absolutely no doubt about the direction of this particular relationship. On top of that, whoever she tells about it,(if she is not too ashamed), will find the story amusing and to a degree admire your nerve, so it needn't harm your chances with her friends.

2- I go with the following..... Establish that monogamy (exclusive life partnership) is an artificial construct, introduced by rulers and religious leaders somewhere in the middle east around 5000 years ago as an attempt to better organise and give structure to societies, it is an outdated experiment and there is absolutely no basis for it in human nature. Afterall, we must have done OK for the 250,000 years before we began to form settled communities. The figures back it up, 60% of married people often feel unhappy or trapped, 60% of women ADMIT to having affairs, it's over 70% for men, divorce is going through the roof and all of this deceit, heartache and pain can simply be avoided by respecting an individuals right to give his/her love to whoever they please, with openness and honesty and by this freeing ourselves from the shackles of envy and jealousy.

I also throw in the old metaphor 'why would I want to keep you locked up in a cage, like a bird, all of your beauty available only to me. That would be selfish and a crime. Life is so short, and we must spread and share as much joy, pleasure and love as possible, and not limit ourselves in any way'.

A bit of humour can hammer it home, something like.... 'I think you're lovely, but I don't look at you and think to myself, 'My god, this is it. I'm going to stick! I can honestly say I will never need another woman for as long as I live!!!'. Said cheekily it can soften the shock of the realisation that everything has changed.

Yes I do, but more importantly it helps if your target believes it.

peace

Trickster

Fair enough, if you read B rad's question once more you'll see what this thread is actually about, what we we are trying to achieve here.

To open a targets mind to the possibilities of polygamy, which is by your definition also a contract and far, far more honest.

peace and love

Trickster

ah, i see =) well, we have pretty strong evidence that pre-civilisation, and for hundreds of thousands of years, Homo Sapiens adopted a simple heirarchical social system, with the youngest, fittest and most attractive sexually mature females being available exclusively to the dominant male, not unlike that of our closest relatives, Chimpanzees. This also ties up with studies of isolated indigenous tribes who's hunter gatherer lifestyle remains primitive and who only adopted monogamy after christian missionaries introduced it.

And let us not ignore the Harem system adopted by the arabic peoples, or the ancient right of Prima Nocte exercised by European Dukes and Barons during medeival times.

A closed mind. Sad =)

Peace

Yes I mean end it with her. She bored me to tears and even when I kissed her it was possibly the worst kiss ever. I was going to start taking longer and longer to reply to her texts until it fizzles out, or should I just tell her I'm not interested anymore?

On a personal note I do believe in monogamy if the person is right, just don't want to be monogamous at the moment and figuring out what I need to do/say to let girls know this so that either they are comfortable with it and we can proceed with a relationship or they aren't and we don't. Just don't want to do it behind their backs.

It's interesting for me this, as a month ago I had several girls on the go. I went out picking up girls several times a week. Then I met this one girl, that ticks every box and now I'm only seeing her. I'm in a relationship, monogamously out of choice. A choice made from abundance.

Geeeeeeeeees kowalski, trickster, keep it to the PM.

I'd do what they do to us when they loose interest. Flake.
It doesn't sound like you've invested too much time in her, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like 8-10 hours? (One date)
I would say it'd be fine to flake without explanation with that kind of contact time.

Don't. Its a non-issue that you're seeing other girls, unless they actually get stuck on that point and make it one.
When you start telling them about your lifestyle, that you're social, that you meet a lot of women, they should be able to figure it out.
For this second part, take some advice off other people as well!

All IMO.