I'll try to steelman what was asked by Stein and illustrate it with an example.

You've described what actually happened on these dates. Whereas Stein is asking what you think the pattern of actions and events would be if they successfully lead to sex.

First, he assumes that your primary goal is sex as opposed to a relationship. Is this assumption correct?
Second, he wants to know if the assumption is correct, what has been / is your plan to get from chatting on Facebook to having sex?

If I wanted to eat scotch eggs (which are not available readymade here), I'd need a plan on how to get from being sat in the kitchen with that desire and no ingredients to biting into a home cooked scotch egg.

"Well, last time I tried to make scotch eggs I went to a shoe shop and they didn't have any eggs or sausage meat and then I went and got drunk instead" that's a description of how I failed to make scotch eggs not a plan on how to make them.

"Go to a shoe shop. Ask for eggs and sausage meat. Buy them. Take them home. Seperate the sausage meat into balls..." that is the first part of a plan on how to make scotch eggs.

And with that plan laid out, now anyone who knows anything about making scotch eggs can help me and say "oh, dude, they almost never sell eggs and sausage meat at shoe shops. You should try a butcher shop and you should probably get some more ingredients like salt and bread and..."


Peace,

kowalski

Nice example ;)
Yes my goal is to getting sex. I tried to pick up some girls with FB, but I also asked some girls in real life for going out. It's not that way that I'm only looking online.
As you said, I heard about sex but I don't know the receipt to get it. Also I think something on the date is wrong because I never (only one time) kissed a girl or have more.

But you still haven't answered Stein's question?


Peace,

kowalski

In my opinion, I think at first you must build up trust. After this you can try to get body contact with her like hold hands and after this kissing. Than it would be good to date close to your apartment, so you can go home. But I don't know how I can create this points. I mean online I don't talk about sex and I think this step you must doing offline.

I'm going assume you come across pretty normal conversational and that you look decent, just based off what you said. That's the reason I asked this, as once we've got the act that you might be socially weird out of the way then 90% of sorting this stuff is just nuts and bolts logistics. This is also the most explicitly gaming thing I'm going to have written in a while

So for your idea of the process of getting laid we currently have:

Facebook chatting --> Date ---> Build Up Trust ----> Hand Holding ----> Kissing ----> Going back to yours ---> Sex

So at the moment each one other than Facebook Chatting and Dating are basically road blocks that you have no idea about.

The good news is we can throw out build up trust and hand holding straight away. If a girl is willing to meet up with you all that needs to happen for her to trust you is that you don't act like a weirdo, and you definitely don't need to hold a girls hand first to make out with her.


So let's start with what you're doing already. You're having trouble moving things to a sexual level on these dates. This is probably either because you're not setting this up as something that could potentially lead to sex on facebook in advance, or because you're not leading things in that direction on the date. Most likely it's both.

Can we see an example of what you'd message a girl to set up a date?

Okay, I understand. Thank you.

Often it's a basic conversation. At first I wrote something like I saw you in ... I'm new here. Than I write something about her profile . I can see you are from Mexico for example. After that we have a normal conversation but not to long maybe for a half day - 2 days. Than often I wrote like this. (She was in vacation)

How are you?
In addition, are you coming back this weekend? Because I want to meet you for a drink in the city. For me it would be a pleasure to know you in person and more about you.
Cheers

Paul,
I'm German and live in London. Your problem seems pretty obvious: you don't escalate sexually and therefore you get friendzoned. Its what I did most of my life. But there are good videos and articles out there to help you. Check out the guys from Maennlichkeit Staerken on youtube. I'll also be doing a seminar in London about how to avoid the friendzone, etc. With a few twists I am sure you can make it quite far.

Hello Artigian, vielen Dank ;)
Thank you very much for your advise, I will check this out. But what I can't understand, How can I produce sexual escalation "online" and when this women only see me in frindzone why the don't contact me again after the date. Also , I make them compliments before etc. It's not that way, that it looks like a typically friendship. You think it's better to escalate sexual on first date?
Cheers

Ok, so escalating online is nonsense in my opinion. The only objective when chatting online is to get the girl to go on a date with you. You don't need to compliment her and you don't have to make her feel anything for you. All that happens when you meet. That's when you have your chance to make her feel that you're worth it.

With regards to why they don't contact you again: if they friendzone you, it doesn't mean that they want to be friends with you. It means that they don't think that you're sexually worth pursuing. And that is normally because you fail to escalate. There are lots of tutorials on the internet on how to do all this. Or you can get a mentor for about EUR3000 and they will fix this problem forever.
I learned all this very quickly and have reached a high level of confidence when I go on dates. It is definitely doable.

Yeah, sure. Just spend 3k and all your problems will go away. What a retard. Fuck this guy.


Peace,

kowalski