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Originally Posted by Stein (Post 101022)

Then don't dude. Tinder and POF have already been mentioned to you. Do you've got dating platforms you can use, plus the option of, you know, actually going out. The idea that 'quality' women are paying to go on dating sites is daft anyways.

Yes I am going out too.

I have flicked through Tinder and found very nearly zero quality women in my local city (population 160,000). POF & OKCupid I am on, but it's all to easy to waste way too much time on it, so am not putting too much effort into.

Meanwhile I have been talking to "quality" girls in their mid 35s - 40s upwards that I know socially about how they meet future boyfriends. It's normally at private social functions & via mutual friends or through work. Sometimes it's at semi-public events such as private views for gallery openings. Occasional evening courses too. However pure public spaces such as "in the street" is always an absolute no-no, likewise shopping malls, likewise night clubs. There have been one or two art gallery confessions, plus holiday romances where different rules clearly apply(!) Of course they could be lying but from the strength of reaction I doubt it.

But where DO the hot girls go? Well a number of them seem make very easy money as webcam girls. e.g. Via CraigsList I strayed into mynaughtydreams.com and the site seems to have a huge number of hot girls right here in my local city. I guess they are all impoverished students, not sure.

Of course you need to start paying money to message anyone and it's c. £1/day for what is presumably mainly pornography.

Anyone here pulled any girls off a webcam site - and if so were they all just hookers?

I was curious about webcam sites, (e.g. iwantu.com) not because I want to jerk off to them, but because during a fairly brief visit I noticed:
A) Surprisingly large numbers of local women.
B) Quite a lot of them are quite ugly.
C) Entry costs are lower than dating sites

So I wondered if normal, intelligent, educated, attractive women had started using theme for DATING rather than for selling their bodies for porn/prostitution. It occurs to me that it would be a much safer way for a women to have an initial webcam date than in the first instance to meet up physically....

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Originally Posted by ship69 (Post 101067)

Reminds me of that time I went to a Thai brothel because I thought all the nice girls would prefer to get to know me over a relaxing massage.

Wishful thinking ftw.

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Originally Posted by ship69 (Post 100966)

Why do I want to be in a relationship? Sure:

To me each relationship is a unique dance between two unique people. It is almost entirely impossible to predict or determine how things will pan out. One can't change someone else, but one can bring out the best sides in them. And with luck they may even do the same for you.

All one can do is be open to possibilities.

So in NO particular order, and with much overlap here goes:

- to give powerful love to one person
- to receive love from one person
- to have more love & compassion echoing out into my life to offer to friends, to family maybe even to strangers, who knows - possibly to the whole world.
- the experience the intense pleasure of sexual gratification
- to have less shallow relationships in my social live (no longer swung into stuf because I am single)
- To gain a sense of closeness & intimacy (both physical & emotional)
- Humour/entertainment
- To gain a sense of giving
- To go on a journey of self-discovery
- To go on a journey of deeply understanding another human being
- Having more energy in my live and having more to give the world
- Emotional/psychological/spiritual development
- A feeling of being of use
- Avoidance of loneliness
- To help someone through the tricky steps of life with occasional insights and wisdom, particularly when you have already trod certain tricky hand-holds on the face of the mountain (as it were)
- With luck to maybe receive something similar back
- To facilitate someone else to flourish and more fully become themselves
- To be able to make a bigger impact on life through greater energy, greater support, greater wisdom
- A greater sense of security, of meaning and of purpose
- To feel that one is making the most of this short life
- To save money and live more cheaply
- An expression of passion, romance, life and love
- Have someone to warm the bed for you or for her
- An emotional journey and adventure
- A solution to the drinking and driving problem (every other time!)
- Supporting, validating, caring for someone else
- And maybe getting some of the same back... or not. I don't necessarily care.
- To step into someone else's entire universe, which is different from mine.
- To get to know new people
- To have a soulmate to go on a journey to try to deeply understand what the underlying issues are of how things work
- To spark ideas, insights & wisdom off each other
- To have a partner to bounce one's sometimes crazy ideas off and find out which are how crazy and to stop you making some stupid mistakes
- Possibly to have children, possibly not

... I am open to all these possibilities and none of them, but if nothing else I would hope:

- To spend the rest of my life with someone in whose company I like myself better.

OK kowalski, your turn, buster

J

Actually the ironic thing about PUA and the game is that it can always lead to a relationship if thats what you choose. But as far as I can see, if you want a normal woman who is worthy of all of the things you described you need to go to where the normal woman of your dreams are hanging out. These are places like shopping malls, coffee bars etc.

No matter what your age you can open any place any where :cool:
If you feel weird doing it, I guess it will come across.

The reason we are all on here is to learn how to open anywhere your dream girl appears, while making the situation seem as normal and interesting as possible.

Crack that and you will find her.

Good Luck :)