The AntiPUA

guys...

...who really dont want to beleive that PUA might work, or even just help a guy who hasn't quite got the self-confeidence he would like....

they were bantering on, doing an impression of me and my mate, as if we were chattign up a girl, then bending down into out pocket and pretending to flick through a book for answers etc....

I mean, for me its like water of a ducks back, i wouldnt give them the satisfaciton of getting mardy about it all, but inside my blood was boiling...

The guys who were doing the mick-taking both had GFs so, it would seem that the burden of proof was on me and my friend in the PUA corner, however, i said to them... well tbf, when you are single i never see you with loads of girls...

...this was the thing aswell, they were trying to give us advice, and the things they were saying, were actually not dissimilar form things that were in the books and on the forums anyway. I told them this, and they were dissmissive...

typical... i ended the debate by saying that some people, dont want to beleive that there could be someone else who knows better than them, and theyre afraid to give that person (author/pua/forum poster) a try...

Another thing that annoyed me, one of my wings form last night, who was successful, 'After Mine and the other dudes wingmanship' was showing off to the other guys, who werent there on friday, how 'he came in and stole the show'...

the reality was..

yes, the girl he #closed liked him... there was attraction and he did well for that

but...

without my opener, and mine and my other firends assisted value, he wouldnt have even got the opportunity in the first place...

He was looking rather smug round the table, so i made a point and said to the others, that he himself admitted that without my opener he wouldnt have had a chance... I looked him right in the eyes while i told the others, and my other friend who was out with me agreed.... i like to think that his slight hesitation in a come-back sold my point just enough to set the story straight with the others.... they however will probs Want to beleive that i'm wrong, because lets face it, some people, even if theyre really good mates, they just dont want to beleive that PUA can work, because they never tried it!

AntiPUA... i hate them more than.... Hot Custard!!!!

Picard.


Other than that, i got a K-Close... lol

I've written about my own friends before, and their antiPUAism.

My friends have been gently, indirectly mocking. They aren't against PUA necessarily, but rather are against anyone who wants to try different ways to get girls.

The reason for this: Because they really don't want you to succeed. Because, if you do succeed, and if you do practice this stuff to the point that you become amazing at meeting women, this exposes them as being poor at meeting women.

Most guys would rather be one among several AFCs. They know they are poor at meeting women, but use the similar failings of others around them to validate and justify their own failures. This allows them to use the excuse of 'you either have it, or you don't', and to live in the comfortable myth that you can't learn to be good with women - its just something based on your looks and natural assets.

This comfortable place becomes a convenient reality, and guys living there like it when their friends also feed into that reality.

But when you begin to try new things, when you begin to learn PUArtistry, you are challenging those realities. And these are realities which these guys need in order to feel secure.

They'll therefore try to shoot you down and try to stop you from doing it. They'll enjoy your failures (as one of my 'friends' did the other week when a 2 set bombed - he came over and started laughing and waving two fingers at me). They'll tell each other how right they are that this stuff doesn't work, and there's no point even trying.

But just wait until you have some success. Even a small amount, to show that this stuff works. They'll change very quickly.

Pic, don't even give a shit about these wankers. They're from the same breed that once sat around laughing and saying 'The Earth is flat!'. You're getting great results mate, keep ploughing on and sooner or later these fellers are gonna have some pretty big chunks of humble pie to eat.

And as an addendum, their joke about 'flicking through a book' shows a few basic misunderstandings they have of the PUA community. Certainly in its RSD conception.

lol, i think i was more aggrevated by the value-theft that i got form the guy who denied that it was m assit that got him the #close....

also he kept saying 'i wasnt out sarging, i was just watching the others'


yet... he voided this concept the minute he stepped into our conversation and started talking... form then on in, he was part of the sarge, using our value, contributing to our cause....


annoyance!!! lol

all good points CO.... i think we need to get together for a sarg tbf

Pic.

CovertOp is right man, I have a few mates who are Anit-PUA's. It really winds me up. This one mate i know had been in a relationship for about 4 years and although hes a top lad, hes fucking miserable with women. Hes dabbled in a few sub par girls but he fuckin knows hes better than the shit hes been getting since his break up. I offered to introduce him to the community, but he just flagrantly refused and cited it as false, creepy and a load of shit. I gave him a talking to about the myths and misconceptions of this pretty ace community, but still he wasnt taken in. At the end of the day, youre gonna be soooo much happier with women and your abilty to get with them compared to your anti-PUA mates. All in all id say thats the only thing that matters. Knowing full well your forever reaching higher, while theyre staying on the lame boring sub par level they have always been on.

well said regs!!!

Pic.

I had a friend like this..he was horrible in fact

If anyone tried to improve them selves in any part of there life he would laugh and curse at it

even when i was out in town after telling him about pua and he seen me speaking to women he would come over and drag me away by the collar because if i had any success it would threaten his reallity and would force him to admit he either needs to change or follow suit

This guy was actually dragging me down in every part of my life he was a like a leach sucking the life force from me so i had to let him go

the point is you will allways come across people like this and theres nothing you can do about it, this is your life and your the one who is going to be successfull thats all that matters, and really when you think about whats more important proving someone wrong or bettering your self?

game on mate

Just a quick one. After reading this, my personal take is, why would I even need to bother persuading other guys that the PU arts are cool? etc.

So, from now on, I'm not mentioning it to another soul! If people tell me "hey man, how come you're with so many girls? (I'm starting to get that alot)" I just say,"This is how I have fun...I'm mental! " then just go and talk to other girls.

Any guy starts to tool you for it....totally ignore and carry on enjoying yourself these "AMOGS" are now TOTALLY out of my reality. Some guys try to tool me only very rarely, but my reality is strong, I just filter them out. Don't even engage with chodes. Number 1 priority, talk to women, fuck 'em, get your dick wet. Rinse/repeat.

you know sapmi, halfway through writing that post i thought the very same thing.. from now on, im not going to bother telling anyeopn what i do, and why...

im just gonna do it!

cheers!

Pic.


btw: i forgot to mention that friday night i made 2 lesbian HB7s prove their lesbianity infront of me.. i was quite happy about that... i think i could hva ejoined in, if there werent a crowd of AMOGgy AFC chavs in the line of sight...

nevermind lol

I understand your frustration, and I might cause it even sometimes myself.

Probably because just like some men (and women for that matter) do not want to call themselves feminists because of the associations it brings on these days, I do not want to call myself a PUA because I do not wish to associate myself with Mystery and the lot.

There are all in all alot of cool guys in the PUA community, and even more creepy guys but all with a reason for being there, the same reason I got into the community to start with.

@Kowalski: I meant don't tell people you hardly know, or Random dudes in clubs. It's not worth the effort. If you're friends are gonna tool you, are they worth having?