hey guys this is my 1st post and im in situation where my friends that i go out with are not really the greatest wings. well for starters the banter is a laugh in the local but in a club theres no 'my set, your set' its whoever gets in 1st and may the best man win etc. thats ok with me but at times we can be in a set where they will be way too direct, show too much interest in their target and either scare the target away or get a result before i can even get a word in (hence why i do the majority of sarging on my own in clubs) the main problem is that its all competition to them and unless feelings such as a general interest are involved then its a race to the finish line and I want to be the ferrari to their bmw's. i can open a set ebtter then any other of them its just when they get comfortable there all 'me, me, me' any suggestions?

Yeah man, i have a similar problem with some of my mates. In freshers week one of my "mates" stole my target off me and ending up sucking face with. However with my BEST mates, they understand and i dont feel pressurised to be the first to the finishing liine. You're true mates wont try and beat you down and take your target from you.

C'mon how many times in our non-pua days will go after the same target not knowing she's been targetted by your mates too...! I have done it. Unless they know the game, you cant really blame them. I go out a lot with my non-pua friends and when Im with them, Im out to have fun. And chatting to girls isnt really in the forefront of my mind.

So unless you are out with "wings" who are also in the game, then expect to compete for the same target unless, as just Jaz has pointed, you have told them about the rules.

Much Success....

You could treat it like a challenge, most of us have it easy because we have good wings. So if you can get good at getting the girl even when your mates are after her imagine how good you'll be with decent wings.

Yeah man I have the same problem with my mates. Though they usually just stand awkwardly by the set or try to get my attention. You need to just go out with a wing man on sarging nights, and when you're out with guys just have a good time and get fucked lol

I think it's a good idea to educate your friends. Let them read books and listen to tapes. Get them in on everything. Let them know about all the rules. Go to a seminar together and learn your sets together. If you have the cash go to a Bootcamp together. Bill Gates never got to where he got without a team. So it's all about team work and working together. I hate this whole competition thing, it should not be like that don't you think?

But I also do know what you are talking about, because I have realized that you can never force anything on anyone. They will only do something when they decide they want to do it.

So best solution is to find some like-minded PUA's and become good friends to them! Go out with them, don't get wasted and learn. And as Flake said, when you're out with your mates then have fun get wasted and have a competition to see who can chase away the hottest girls ha ha ha ha