Hi forum
Newboy here!
I think most people on this forum, have read The Game by Neil Strauss, and have heard about Mystery who have had used magic tricks in his game.
I think it's sounds intersering, and as a good way to be playfull and qualify yourself (as long as you don't jump into any hoops), and right away gives you something to talk about when you approach a girl or a set. But what is your thoughts or even experience on use these kind of things in the field?

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By using magic or other such gimmicks you are essentially creating a social crutch because you do not believe in the quality of your personality or conversation.

I have employed things like this in the past, I used to enjoy palm reading as you could get a little kino going but what happens when your trick is finished? or you've read their palm? you've performed your monkey trick? you have to move on to that conversation that you have no confidence in.

By the time I felt I had developed into somebody who was socially awesome/confident I no longer used those tricks, just confidence in my charming personality.

THat said it is always attractive to have good hobby/skill. I play the ukulele, read palsm and a few other things I do because I enjoy them not because they impress girls. They do however crop up in conversation and act as another element in that girl being attracted to you but not as the underlying reason.

Don't think about qualifying yourself at the moment. Being playful is fine, but learning magic tricks just to impress girls maybe a waste of time. Practice being as expressive as possible, with girls and in every social interaction. What do I mean by that? Being comfortable in saying the first thing that comes into your head. Also, try lowering your standards on what you think is cool to say. As long as your not a dickhead, say anything! Not everyone will like you then, but you shouldn't care. People will be drawn to you though because you're 100% expressive and authentic. If you want to take up something to improve your game, apart from going out alot, go to comedy improv classes. Not only are they funny as fuck in their own right, you get pushed into the "expressive" mindset.

Remember in any social interaction, you are not "trying to impress", you need to "be expressive". It takes practice. I've even said to girls "cant think of what to say now, look at the effect you're having on me!". If you have a hobby or skill already, and it comes out in conversation, thats cool. It's part of who you are. People are interested in who YOU are, not what you are trying to portray to them. Get me?

and Madonna quote "make him express how he feels then you know his love is real"
I'm not gay

I would be wary of doing this as this sounds like being one step away from being autistic and gaining the nickname Rainman

This is good advice. Getting used to being funny and witty in social situations FTW

within reason! lol. As i said, this assumes you're not a dickhead to people and you have socially awareness! Express yourself responsibly. Takes going out and practicing. There is no magic pill. You can't just think your way into it.

NewBoy if you want to learn magic tricks for your own enjoyment then go for it! I wouldn't rely on them as a method for attracting women. Sure it will buy you some attention but that is all. I don't think many or anyone for that matter here uses magic tricks. Field test it and let us know how it works out for you.

Those old enough to remember will know 'Magic' allowed Paul Daniels to bag Debbie McGee!

I Love mystery. Hes by best mate.

New Boy. you will benefit more from being a cocky dickhead to girls. then over time assessing how much cocky works & doesnt. ur better off getting told to fuck off by 1000 women then trying to use stupid routines to win em all over.

u learn more from a no than a yes.

eventually you grow as a person. not in what you say do, but how you say & do things and more importantly

how you feel about the things you say and do.

so use these routines, do what makes u feel comfortable approaching. but just try everythin. act like a competely arrogant prick, and if it doesnt work, try again & see if the reaction is different. then try it diff ways.

then try being nice & see the contrast.. then try being a cunt for a bit then nice...

and vice versa (cunt then nice does work... nice then cunt doesnt.. try it anyway)

just fuck about with people... and learn from your own experiences.

if u need a few routines to get u goin Cool.. use em until u decide saying

Hi wanna see my monkey

works the same as

Do you floss ur cat with ur mums g string.

I get the point, and when you are putting this way I can see what you mean. Even do it was not meaning, as using it as an opener, but more like something that i would show of if I had good chemistry with the girl, or use it to say something like 'Come along, there something that i would show you' and then pull her away from the set (and of course show it).
So i think that I just gonna throw that one out...