Basic evolutionary biology - men are genetically programmed to want to shag multiple women, women are programmed to seek stability.

The idea that you can find a woman who can still make you feel like a love sick puppy on a first date after 10 years together is a movie land myth and I guess this gets combined with the PUA sales pitch that you deserve some sort of perfect magical woman that will do this. Also this whole "spark" thing is actually cycle of chemical releases in your body whos effects last at most a couple of years, so IMO if you dump this girl for someone who gives you the "spark" in 3-4 years time it will have worn off and youl be thinking "what am I doing with this girl is inferior to the one I had before in every respect".

If you like I can write a scripted bot to auto reply to all my posts dissagreeing with them - it would save you alot of time

I am not expecting magic, sparks or anything else, but there have been girls who I've dated who have been checkout girls or cleaners and we have really laughed and enjoyed each others company however they haven't had the emotional intelligence or stability for me to consider as a partner.

This girl however has that and we laugh and joke but it's more of an understanding than a compatability...

You obviously have a far greater experience-based understanding of all this then me.

Your black and white view on everything leaves nothing to the debate and so must be faultless.

Oh dear did I accidentally post to to www.hugs-for-everyone.com I mean really, this forum is supposed to be for MEN who are rational, in control of their emotions, and can tolerate descenting opinions.

You could have said
"Thats simply not true - I / my mate / brother /parents / whoever is living proof"

no problem, lets have the discussion,

or even
"I just think you are wrong"

but no, you had to resort to sarcasm and straw man tactics.

If your really thinking about the long haul then you should consider stuff like whos genetic material you want to pass onto your kids (scientist&ballerina vs checkout girl), who do want on you team if/when things take turns for the worst in life e.g. serious health or financial problems, who has the depth of character intellect and personality. You need to way all these things against "having a laugh".

I hold different values to you though Sapphire, for me genetics doesn't really play a part and personally as long as I'm not being abused, financial issues are of no significance either as long as she's not being jailed for fraud/tax evasion...

I am talking about a life partner, somebody who I want to spend everyday of my life with until I die. To me laughing is very important, not "having a laugh" as you put it.

To me you're making a very logical choice which is the very point that I ponder, because logically she is a great choice of life partner, emotionally I would be unfulfilled...

This is the entire point.

Sapphire - you will come to a point in life when you realise that what you just want to do deep down may often not have any logical reasoning.

I can understand what your doing and your attitude - as I am a very logical based decision maker myself, but when it comes to women, you'll often find your feelings don't make sense.

When (if?) you meet a girl you quite possibly want to spend the rest of your life with, she might not meet many of your boxes. This will do one of two things; either cause you to regrettably blow her off, or worse - fuck with your mind because all the constants you based your reasoning with will have let you down.

I'm not saying roll over and accept it, but just keep all that in mind.

Regarding my sarcasm, it was in response to your limited ability to see two sides to an argument and the all important (all-too-often) overlooked grey area.