Sd matrix
 

These things r sick..

the difference in me in 8 days is DAFT!!

i have another 6 days then my pct! the results should be interesting

Don't you worry about hormesis?

You know where your body adapts to the supplement and reduces the natural testosterone your body produces in the long term.

I did say. You gotta thank me for it...! I'm training in a gym here in Borneo and I'm the most buffy haha! Love it!

He is DAFT, if he doesnt take the milk thistle and drink plenty of water and cutting down the alcohol abuse. But SD Matrix = Tren Bomb = M1T are lethal. You are right but it is legal.

milk thistle 2 - 3 a day

cranberry every day

acai juice

water & if i can pure unconcentrated grape juice

only got another 3 days then im pct

So you're doing a 2 week cycle? Been considering doing a short PH cycle ATM myself, have been looking at Mdrol though. Wanna get back the size I had before injury.

Have you kept any stats or have you just been judging it visually? Would be cool if you could post some more details. Info on short cycles is pretty hard to come by!

Cheers

To be honest if your going to play with PH's you might as well go all out and take the real thing... (i.e. proper steroids) But I suppose alot of people have issues with a trusted dealer . However if you can get reliable steroids (pharmacy grade) and you've taken/taking PH's you might as well go for the roids. The majority of the side effects of steroids are the same as those of pro-hormones. However PH's aren't as strong as they're pre-cursors so gains are lessened. One final note alot of people think steroids are illegal to take, this is not the case they are illegal to sell. So unless you have over a years supply (or more) of the stuff (around the amount classed as dealing) which you won't because that would be well..pointless, you're good to go! (provided you've done all the necessary research into dosages, how to inject, pct, and again you can get hold of pharma grade gear.)

Had a look at what that is expensive shit to say the least, i remember coming across some protein powder whilst at work which was £50 for a 1kg tub bearing in mind vat is not paid on food supplements otherwise it would be £60 quid.

If i was to train seriously i would just knock back loads of full fat milk alot less expensive than that shit.

Id be interested to know what hardcore bodybuilders pay on protein powders, supplements, food, steroids each week.

Im pretty sure you could get better results taking dianabol, probably less expensive too.

it does cause plenty of water retention yes (i would know i have taken it), but steroids have that effect, if your relatively new to hard training like i believe phil is you dont need any kind of supplements really anyway, save that shit for when your gains have stalled. As a newbie you should make good progress quite quickly at least in the beginning.

Thanks caveman, thats my theory on SD Matrix. Definately something I will do but I'm pretty new to serious weight training so I'm making leaps and bounds of progress anyway. The supplements I'm using are Glutamine, Creatine and Whey Protein. Seems to be working very well!

Plan is to add SD Matrix to the mix when I can't keep increasing the weights every 2 weeks as I am now.

ITT people advocate steroids.

camarda, quick question pal

ive been on sus & deca with the occasional dbol here & there mixed into the cycle for a while now but heading out to do a summer in ibiza next saturday, dont want to lose much muscle mass as worked hard to get alot bigger than i previously was, i know you mentioned their not illegal to take, only to deal which i was aware of but just wondering whether its even worth taking say a course of deca & sus to ibiza with me? i know their not illegal to take but would it be wise to not bother taking them to save the hassle with customs or would they confiscate it still? any info or advice appreciated cheers mate

I wouldn't bother. You're on holiday, man!
Going to a place like Ibiza, any non-prescription drugs are going to be treated with suspicion.

Cheers twisted, over there for 4 monts so just a but wary of losing my size & mass but might be a good time to cut

u can get anythin u want in spain

im pretty sure gear is illegal in spain to buy in pharmacies-- Egypts the place if you want that

not sure what the laws are in Spain, definitely look first if your thinking of taking any with u. Dbol is a good compound and keeping gains requires the same protocol as any other cycle, appropriate dosage (considerations for compound being used etc) a good pct, and diet/training.

do a photo blog like phil has

i dunno how much u know about this but ive starded a new cycle of deca & test 4

shud i be taking estrogen surpressors with cycles, i cant find any info about it but i certainly dont like the tiredness

while on cycle just watch out for signs such as puffy nipples, tenderness and lumps behind them --if you notice any then get on Nolvadex
Nolvadex also helps to reduce Water retention.

Coming off the cycle is a different matter- Deca is vry supressive of your natural testosterone levels so make sure you ahve a good PCT lined up with HCG, Nola and Clomid

Lethargy and night sweats are side effects of using the steroid Trenbolone
i think SD Matrix is based on Trenbolone ifirc

Ive added 25kg on my bench press in the last couple of months changed my diet but not useing matrix just natrual for me im up to 105kg for 1 max rep.
I want to bench 300 pounds in a few months i know its possible im getting seroiusly strong i reccomend the deadlift to improve overall strengh still you sound like your getting results.

im sure you gave me down the banks a few weeks back about steroids and claimed you wer getting WELL better results naturally.

whilst i do understand peoples disapproval of steroids i do have an issue with people judging people. I never disputed it at the time because who am i to call u a liar.

but i would PISS 105 kg and in 8 months have added 40 - 50 k to my bench.

people on this forum are so inconsistent with what they say...

well done for doing it naturally... but horses for courses

What is the deal with steroids? Can they be used safely for a small period to acheive the desired result? Is there anywhere where you can safely buy them? Will you grow an extra penis on your back?

if you do it properly, short term side effects are very unlikely. ur better training in a small REAL non commercial gym, getting to know someone and make sure you learn about PCT & do it properly.

the risks are not in the steroids but those who sell it.

but yes in 8 weeks you would see MASSIVE results if you train properly

But if the drugs your sampling are suspect this could happen with any illegal drug then you could be taking for example rat poison or bleach any thing they can use mill to a white powder then you choose to risk your health and sanity for the sake off having a laugh and getting muscular.


And also what are the long term implications off taking drugs you may be prepared and stated that i will be having a great time but at 47 you may be incapable of recalling all those great times in ibiza and be a walking wreak off a man shuffling along going what day is it my mind is a shambles but you know what i dont care because its my choose and im dave no william or was it fuck i cant remember because my brain i so mush like think ossie osborne a prime example a walking wreak and retarded due to drugs your responce will be intresting.

drugs are bad mkay

if i remember you said you benched a 100 kg and then 110kg as for being judgemental thats what thid furum is about every is judgeing evaulating you have a ok body but someone else that does body building said you have a foot players body .

Also im only 25kg from hitting 300 pounds and that doing it natrual just plain blood and guts training the dorain yates style proper hardcore training im sorry your pissed that im makeing gains the natraul way but i have always been gifted at sports i was the beat runner at school and easily the beat in the the school.

At 14 i arm wrestled my elder sister boyfreind he was 21 and you know what i beat him he was so pissed cant tell you the shit my sister said to him you got beat by my baby brother .


Look you should train natraul hell i can do it and when you stop you body will loose muscle you gained in a very short time.

Aslo i have a witness that seen me do 105kg on the bench press im not a lair if i was i would say i can do 200kg.

When i hit 300 pounds i will put a pic up on the furum next to yours well the old pic as you stated your benching huge amount what are you benching then phl???????.And Phil you judge people all the time dude!!.

I would happily put my pic up againgt you then we could have a poll on the furum the one with the most votes wins.

Im natrual clean and if you are benching 150kg with chemical assistance its nothing to boast about!!.

Fuck i would out bench you easily if you trained clean!!!!!!! you have made me very annoyed you put the pic up dude not me im a harsh critic you cant handle that then tough.

there is no back up to say the affects of drug use (non abusive) are detrimental in life... infact a recent study has shown ecstasy may help cure cancer..


yep... and if i was truthful i struggled today to get 5 out of 100k... but ive lost a load of strength since ibiza. shit happens.

i dont want a body builders body, i think they look obscene... im going for athletic, its precisely the look i was aiming for. and its a little disturbing that your showing my pics to other men... the fact i riled u up enuf that u had to do so is a reflection on u.

i really am not pissed at that mate lol.. i have much better things to occupy my emotion

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA u did not write this did u...

or this....


HAHA I AM ACTUALLY PISSIN MYSELF...


someone should message arnie & let him know he is gonna be tiny soon!

i dont believe you i want to meet him!.. or at least some sort of youtube video

not much at the mo... ill let u know when im back properly

i judge people who talk shit about shit they dont know...

can we put pics of our dicks up too??

why?.. u have an ego issue


i put it there to be judged... on the gains... i was just pointing out the fact u said u wer getting better faster results from training clean... which was clearly a lie.


... ps... i noticed you mentioned training DORIAN YATES BLOOD AND SWEAT STYLE??????

ye coz dorian yates doent touch steroids... DEFO


the fact u got annoyed enuf to make 3 posts just shows ur a loser with nothin better to do... u need to chill the fuck out mate...

uber reactional

dece870717's Channel - YouTube

Not trying to give an anti-steroids message here, just found it an enjoyable watch. Worth watching all the 5 parts.

pot kettle black

sarcasm a clear sign you are threatened by his argument

that last post took so much effort that this point has no weight.

the point wasnt to have any weight... i was just trolling him, he is easy to wind up

im not threatened at all... its a forum.

curious as to how im inconsistent tho??

Phil have you ever seen the film Quadrophennia?

Well i was watching it and a character in it is simalar to you which is the mod leader played by sting everyone looked up to the dude he was splashing the cash playing the big man the same as you and they all followed him .

The mods against the rockers set in the sixties brighton they fight in the end sting is in court as he has been arrested the judge gives him his punishment he cockily says i will pay the fine now!.

But in the end the other dude in the film sees sting for what he is a sell out he is no rebel or leader just a plain bull shit artist like you PHIL because he works at a posh hotel as a bell boy carrying the cases for the rich people looking for tips supplicating to them sting sees the guy looking at him and realises what the dude is thinking.That yeah i have no credidbilty im a joke all i represent is fake that is you PHIL. That was a very poingnant moment for me as i thought off you your him.

Also you trying to troll me well your the one thats cut and pasteing my post last night!!!!!! .

While i was busy not bothered about your silly antics saying estasy cures cancer classic i had a big laugh with that.

Now back to the main argruement you are taking steroids to get a fitness body that is pure insane never mind.

Also arnie you look at him now he is tiny due to stoping the roids!!!! .

The reason your not making gains is your over training ive looked at your routine way to much phil to many sets less is more phil!!!!!!.

You have clearly been found out i hope the others on the furum wake and see what you really are a fake you cant even live a clean life style and stanley thats to Kowalski dont keep sucking phils dick he is a grown man he can defend him self you imput is not needed.

Dont tell your grand ma how to suck eggs i know a hell of a lot very well read your out of your league your pissed that makes me laugh.

Also im very doutful of what you now as your clarly a liar dont bother replying as PHIL you never accept when your wrong and you never lose a argrument.

And for the record most of you are instantly forgetable on this forum i dont really care what you guys think stick with your cliques big in a group typical english behavoiur now good day .

I may look else were as this furum is way to much of you Phil!!!!.

So i will not be bothered at all to your futile lairing bullshitting responce good day.


i dont believe you i want to meet him!.. or at least some sort of youtube video



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loooooooooool whats the point of even saying that

I DEMAND we all meet up and talk about this, Piers where and when is good for you?

The meeting will involve :

1)who is the gayest competition
2)Pissing competition
3)How big is your cock
4)some kindof of raffle for a night out with Phil

Yeah that was harsh there are 11000 members on this furum you have to admit were are they !!!.

Where is there imput it is zero sorry im being harsh your ok no reflection on you maybe you can talk some sence to phil as this furum is dominated bt PHIL: you should realise he is full of bullshit end off.

reflex has met me! so u cant really say that to him.

ur an a grade idiot... and even tho i told u ur gettin trolled... u still took the bait

ur a moron

mate u need to chill the fuck out, i at no point have got angry ... i laffed at u a bit but im just dickin with u.

honestly mate im like that in real life and anyone who reacts wont be allowed into my circle of friends....

maybe instead of thinkin like this


im not arguin.. nobody wins arguments .... ur so uptight & instead of seeing everythin as a pissin contest u should have a go of listenin...

coz if ur the same in real life as u are on this forum u will struggle at success... EGO ISNT GOOD

stop lettin what people say get u all fired up... and STOP FEELING THE NEED TO EXPLAIN URSELF... it lowers ur value..

i try my best to help people on here however i can... coz i have succeded where most here want to.

STORY:

i used to be a proper dickhead, anytime sumone looked at me funny id go mad...

fightin all the time... BAD PATH

one day i was gloatin about smashin sumones head in to some older fella like i was cool... when he looked at me and said...

"oh" then looked at me like UR A NOB

and at that point realised NOBODY CARES ABOUT HOW BIG OR HARD U ARE.

ive had many moments like that... be nice if u had one today

anyway

chill out piers

its what u do when u become a growed up

Yes i know you know one another no cut and paste this time!!!.

I never took the bait ?

I hope you learn Phil there are young impressionble men on the furum your advocating the use of steroids and estasy that is very foolish you need to grow up big time !!!!!!!.

And phil i pity the poor woman that ends up with you .

My previous post i bet that hit home Phil!.

Good bye .