These things r sick..

the difference in me in 8 days is DAFT!!

i have another 6 days then my pct! the results should be interesting

Don't you worry about hormesis?

You know where your body adapts to the supplement and reduces the natural testosterone your body produces in the long term.

I did say. You gotta thank me for it...! I'm training in a gym here in Borneo and I'm the most buffy haha! Love it!

He is DAFT, if he doesnt take the milk thistle and drink plenty of water and cutting down the alcohol abuse. But SD Matrix = Tren Bomb = M1T are lethal. You are right but it is legal.

milk thistle 2 - 3 a day

cranberry every day

acai juice

water & if i can pure unconcentrated grape juice

only got another 3 days then im pct

So you're doing a 2 week cycle? Been considering doing a short PH cycle ATM myself, have been looking at Mdrol though. Wanna get back the size I had before injury.

Have you kept any stats or have you just been judging it visually? Would be cool if you could post some more details. Info on short cycles is pretty hard to come by!

Cheers

To be honest if your going to play with PH's you might as well go all out and take the real thing... (i.e. proper steroids) But I suppose alot of people have issues with a trusted dealer . However if you can get reliable steroids (pharmacy grade) and you've taken/taking PH's you might as well go for the roids. The majority of the side effects of steroids are the same as those of pro-hormones. However PH's aren't as strong as they're pre-cursors so gains are lessened. One final note alot of people think steroids are illegal to take, this is not the case they are illegal to sell. So unless you have over a years supply (or more) of the stuff (around the amount classed as dealing) which you won't because that would be well..pointless, you're good to go! (provided you've done all the necessary research into dosages, how to inject, pct, and again you can get hold of pharma grade gear.)

Had a look at what that is expensive shit to say the least, i remember coming across some protein powder whilst at work which was £50 for a 1kg tub bearing in mind vat is not paid on food supplements otherwise it would be £60 quid.

If i was to train seriously i would just knock back loads of full fat milk alot less expensive than that shit.

Id be interested to know what hardcore bodybuilders pay on protein powders, supplements, food, steroids each week.

Im pretty sure you could get better results taking dianabol, probably less expensive too.

it does cause plenty of water retention yes (i would know i have taken it), but steroids have that effect, if your relatively new to hard training like i believe phil is you dont need any kind of supplements really anyway, save that shit for when your gains have stalled. As a newbie you should make good progress quite quickly at least in the beginning.

Thanks caveman, thats my theory on SD Matrix. Definately something I will do but I'm pretty new to serious weight training so I'm making leaps and bounds of progress anyway. The supplements I'm using are Glutamine, Creatine and Whey Protein. Seems to be working very well!

Plan is to add SD Matrix to the mix when I can't keep increasing the weights every 2 weeks as I am now.

ITT people advocate steroids.