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Originally Posted by Jaz (Post 55821)

Two weeks in. Now I am feeling it.

I have put on 7 pounds, Now I am not stupid, so am away that most of this is water retention but man do I feel stronger. This is basically super creatine. Incredibly, I have added 30kg to my bench press!!!! I just "look bigger" overall.

The only downsides are the night sweats, I also feel really tired pretty much all the time. This is all down to the estrogen I think, but that should sort it out when I jump on the pct for the next two weeks with the androbolix.

Ive added 25kg on my bench press in the last couple of months changed my diet but not useing matrix just natrual for me im up to 105kg for 1 max rep.
I want to bench 300 pounds in a few months i know its possible im getting seroiusly strong i reccomend the deadlift to improve overall strengh still you sound like your getting results.

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Originally Posted by piers147 (Post 55913)

Ive added 25kg on my bench press in the last couple of months changed my diet but not useing matrix just natrual for me im up to 105kg for 1 max rep.
I want to bench 300 pounds in a few months .

im sure you gave me down the banks a few weeks back about steroids and claimed you wer getting WELL better results naturally.

whilst i do understand peoples disapproval of steroids i do have an issue with people judging people. I never disputed it at the time because who am i to call u a liar.

but i would PISS 105 kg and in 8 months have added 40 - 50 k to my bench.

people on this forum are so inconsistent with what they say...

well done for doing it naturally... but horses for courses

What is the deal with steroids? Can they be used safely for a small period to acheive the desired result? Is there anywhere where you can safely buy them? Will you grow an extra penis on your back?

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Originally Posted by daleinthedark (Post 55918)

What is the deal with steroids? Can they be used safely for a small period to acheive the desired result? Is there anywhere where you can safely buy them? Will you grow an extra penis on your back?

if you do it properly, short term side effects are very unlikely. ur better training in a small REAL non commercial gym, getting to know someone and make sure you learn about PCT & do it properly.

the risks are not in the steroids but those who sell it.

but yes in 8 weeks you would see MASSIVE results if you train properly

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55919)

But if the drugs your sampling are suspect this could happen with any illegal drug then you could be taking for example rat poison or bleach any thing they can use mill to a white powder then you choose to risk your health and sanity for the sake off having a laugh and getting muscular.

And also what are the long term implications off taking drugs you may be prepared and stated that i will be having a great time but at 47 you may be incapable of recalling all those great times in ibiza and be a walking wreak off a man shuffling along going what day is it my mind is a shambles but you know what i dont care because its my choose and im dave no william or was it fuck i cant remember because my brain i so mush like think ossie osborne a prime example a walking wreak and retarded due to drugs your responce will be intresting.

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55917)

if i remember you said you benched a 100 kg and then 110kg as for being judgemental thats what thid furum is about every is judgeing evaulating you have a ok body but someone else that does body building said you have a foot players body .

Also im only 25kg from hitting 300 pounds and that doing it natrual just plain blood and guts training the dorain yates style proper hardcore training im sorry your pissed that im makeing gains the natraul way but i have always been gifted at sports i was the beat runner at school and easily the beat in the the school.

At 14 i arm wrestled my elder sister boyfreind he was 21 and you know what i beat him he was so pissed cant tell you the shit my sister said to him you got beat by my baby brother .

Look you should train natraul hell i can do it and when you stop you body will loose muscle you gained in a very short time.

Aslo i have a witness that seen me do 105kg on the bench press im not a lair if i was i would say i can do 200kg.

When i hit 300 pounds i will put a pic up on the furum next to yours well the old pic as you stated your benching huge amount what are you benching then phl???????.And Phil you judge people all the time dude!!.

I would happily put my pic up againgt you then we could have a poll on the furum the one with the most votes wins.

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 55919)

Im natrual clean and if you are benching 150kg with chemical assistance its nothing to boast about!!.

Fuck i would out bench you easily if you trained clean!!!!!!! you have made me very annoyed you put the pic up dude not me im a harsh critic you cant handle that then tough.

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Originally Posted by piers147 (Post 55922)

there is no back up to say the affects of drug use (non abusive) are detrimental in life... infact a recent study has shown ecstasy may help cure cancer..

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