Steroids the facts??

[Lovefish]

To start with I don't want any (mr Mackie voice) steroids are bad m kay comments plz.If you don't like them of feel strongly against them, stop reading now simple
I am considering trying them after it was suggested to me today and after several months of seeing little or no change in my physique despite my best efforts in the gym and kitchen it might be worth a try.
However I have very little info on them Ive heard all the bad stuff and heard on here about cycling them?? whatever that is??

I know a few guys on here use them and I just want the low down and facts to give me a better overview on steroids and how you can use them in a controlled manner to beef up quickly.

[D!ce]

Does anything worth having come quickly though?

[Lovefish]

Maybe not but a booster or a shortcut is always welcome!!

[db x]

Originally Posted by D!ce

Does anything worth having come quickly though?

This sounds a little too cliche for me..

I'm not sure about my stance on steroids, I would also like some factual info on them, makes me sick how much negativity there is surrounding them yet many people who obviously know the ins and outs of them better than anyone use them.

[Phil]

One thing i have been getting hung up on recently.

There was a story

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...gth-753678.jpg

this kid is about 3 years old apparently.

He has a disfunction which stops his body creating the protein 'Myostatin"

Now the body hates muscle and loves fat, muscle is a drain on energy and the body thinks we still live in the stone age.

There are currently beta tests to find myostatin suppresors.

A protien called 'Follistatin' is a myo inhibitor, and there are stuff on the market that u can take for follistatin, but ingestion has no clear evidence that it would make it into your system digestively.

Im on the hunt to find the best way to naturally lower MYO and increas Follis....

Anyone who fancys doing some digging and keep posting on this thread ive found so far

Creatine lowers myostatin

Vitimain D does aswell

Zinc increases testosterone.

Anyone know anymore on the subject.... the way i see it, if u can remove myostatin.. u can get some silly gains.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Lovefish

Maybe not but a booster or a shortcut is always welcome!!

Start off on somethin like propionate or enthenate. dont start on somethin like deca str8 away. its the hardest on your system so u should maybe wait till course 2 or 3 for that.

Make sure u google how to come off them aswell PCT

taking steds is ok, but if u dont come off them properly and re balance ur body u will

a, lose ur gains

b, fuck ur system

Lean all u need to know about them first.

Id suggest doing 8 weeks of 1mil test enthienate 1mill proprianate. per week

see how you feel after it. Do a PCT... give it 3 months ish. then u should have enough knowledge to know where you wanna go by then

be careful

[nova]

Originally Posted by Phil

Zinc increases testosterone.

I eat pumpkin seeds for my zinc boost.

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Jaz

Read the book I posted.

it wasnt a book, it was a program ... for ilive setup....

ignore me, got it now

[Cumbria-pua]

Hey guys I have done 2 cycles of steroids and I would like to tell anyone who is thinking about doing them that you should go see your doctor once you have started and tell him or her what your taking and how much. Yes thy have to by default read you out the risks but you can request blood tests to monitor your dosage. The natrual amount of test for 24 year old is about 15na/ml and my blood test showed 50na/ml so I knew that the stuff I was injecting was legit and my dosage was correct and it was working. The biggest problems arise when you don't know what the hell is going on in your body.

You can also limit risk of side effects by taking a low dose of 500mml per week (350mml natrual) you will see huge gains still on your first time and you will maybe get a bit of acne , some competitive aggression and some ball shrinkage (myth that penis shrinks) my balls shrank a lil because they werent the main source of test but go bam to normal after pct!

Pct (post cycle therapy)
Tamoxifen : breast cancer treatment for women : it's a drug that binds to your eastrogen (female hormone responsible for bitch tits and acne and water bloat)

You start this 2 weeks after your last injection and take the 20mcg tablets daily for 3 weeks

Hcg ( human chronic gonadotropin) : this is a injection taken 10 days after last test injection. You take one in your stomach fat every 2 days until you have have had 5 x 0.5ml injections with a insulin shallow needle!

It's the Hcg that tells your piturity gland to release a hormone that tells your balls to produce testosterone. After 10 days your balls will be back to thier normal size

Diet: must be strict befor during and after.

Testosterone is best understood when we use the analogy of your veins bieng roads. When you are going natrual. You eat protein and insulin cells carry protein to your muscles. But the insulin is like a mini cooper and can only transport small amounts of nutrients.

When you take steroids its like a these nutrients are traveling on an fully loaded arctic 18 wheeler. A lot more is bieng thrown at your muscles and quicker! Leading to muscle gain!

Any questions just asked I have spent most of my young life researching the safe responsible use of anabolic steroids

[Phil]

Originally Posted by Cumbria-pua

Hey guys I have done 2 cycles of steroids and I would like to tell anyone who is thinking about doing them that you should go see your doctor once you have started and tell him or her what your taking and how much. Yes thy have to by default read you out the risks but you can request blood tests to monitor your dosage. The natrual amount of test for 24 year old is about 15na/ml and my blood test showed 50na/ml so I knew that the stuff I was injecting was legit and my dosage was correct and it was working. The biggest problems arise when you don't know what the hell is going on in your body.

You can also limit risk of side effects by taking a low dose of 500mml per week (350mml natrual) you will see huge gains still on your first time and you will maybe get a bit of acne , some competitive aggression and some ball shrinkage (myth that penis shrinks) my balls shrank a lil because they werent the main source of test but go bam to normal after pct!

Pct (post cycle therapy)
Tamoxifen : breast cancer treatment for women : it's a drug that binds to your eastrogen (female hormone responsible for bitch tits and acne and water bloat)

You start this 2 weeks after your last injection and take the 20mcg tablets daily for 3 weeks

Hcg ( human chronic gonadotropin) : this is a injection taken 10 days after last test injection. You take one in your stomach fat every 2 days until you have have had 5 x 0.5ml injections with a insulin shallow needle!

It's the Hcg that tells your piturity gland to release a hormone that tells your balls to produce testosterone. After 10 days your balls will be back to thier normal size

Diet: must be strict befor during and after.

Testosterone is best understood when we use the analogy of your veins bieng roads. When you are going natrual. You eat protein and insulin cells carry protein to your muscles. But the insulin is like a mini cooper and can only transport small amounts of nutrients.

When you take steroids its like a these nutrients are traveling on an fully loaded arctic 18 wheeler. A lot more is bieng thrown at your muscles and quicker! Leading to muscle gain!

Any questions just asked I have spent most of my young life researching the safe responsible use of anabolic steroids

I went to my doctor for help with my PCT and he told me he wouldn't help me.

Just sorted it myself. Doctors are ignorant.