One month in planning still fucked shit up

[entercaspa]

Hey guys, been a member for ages, but now am starting to really work on my game. This first filed report should be a big step in admitting and treating the problem of NO GAME in my life whatseover.

Ok so i get my closest girls and boys together for a dinner I planned for a month. One girl, lou, is mo closest best friend (of the opposite set) i often use her to validate my high value when around HB's. Naj is a fit girl ( HB 6.5/7) and clar (HB7) is the one that I had planned to try to kiss close at least.

So when they arrived to meet us in the restaurant, the HB6.5 annoyingly forced her way to sit next to me. Annoyed me, cause she likes me and i think she isn't what i want in a girl ( I try to keep standards, for what good that is : ). The girl i want is opposite, one seat left and her fat friend opposite me.

I do what I do best and keep humour in the situation. I make the people laugh and most of the time keep my value up, by telling stories (modestly) and DHV'd. When we left the restaurant i had high value, but she seemed a little off, like i couldnt put my finger on it.

We all got on the train and the humour was still on. I made the guys laugh, i was pretty funny ( judging by the mood of the situation). to get to the fat friends house, to sleep. On the way got loads of alcohol. ( i made sure i didnt get too drunk that it affected my game)
I tried kino at all times,( but sparingly), and she was responsive at times, but there was a point where she trailed off, not complying with my kino, just the bare minimum to make it look comfortable.

We started drinking and she was a little bit better. She complied with kino, laughed WITH my jokes and generally was showing slight interest. We all went upstairs, i made sure i was comfortably close to her, but not too much that it was pervy. kino was still going on, i went further up the ladder, and started incidental kino ( accidental brushing, playing with her hair, leaning head on her abdomen) and she was complying, i think so anyway. She wasn't drunk or anything though. she didnt drink that much.then they decided all to go to sleep, even though i had a lot of energy at the time. She wanted her fat friend to sleep next to her on the bed even though we were all in a good position to fall asleep ( i was next to her, the fat friend was next to me, and another friend next to her). It was almost as if she thought i was gonna try to k close her and she didn't want it.

looking through the situation in my mind, I really was under the impression that i had built enough comfort with her- I've known her properly two years and I have built loaaadss of comfort with her in science with her before.

This is why i am slightly comfused why i didnt close. I need your help guys desparately. IT not for this girl, ive let go of her and i don't care about her that much, but i really do need to know what ive done wrong so that when I stop talking shit ( like i have been for 7 months now) and go out to game next week, i can definately just do it bang right the first time.
please guys, i need some help on this

thanks in advance guys, ANYthing is appreciated

[RLAJay]

You have known her for two years as friends. She sees you as a friend. She does not want to be anything more than friends but does not want to hurt your feelings. Compliance and everything else here is just her doing what she can to be nice while also ensuring nothing more than "friends" occurs. In her mind.

I need your help guys desparately

This is likely your problem.

[aofelix]

Making people laugh is cool but don't start being the joker of the gang.

Stop being outcome focused.
Stop trying to hit on your "friends".

Do what you do, be funny, kino escalate, blah blah blah, seems like you know HOW to do this, you're just doing it with the WRONG people.

I don't know if you suffer approach anxiety, but if you do, defeat it. Then start day/night gaming with NEW PEOPLE

[entercaspa]

Originally Posted by RLAJay

Compliance and everything else here is just her doing what she can to be nice while also ensuring nothing more than "friends" occurs. In her mind.



This is likely your problem.

thanks for the reply there, and yes, now that i think about it, you are probably right, i missed my chance ages ago, and now i really don't care about her enough to get out of that "friend zone"

your advice is spot on i guess. forget about her, and just game elsewhere
thank you

[entercaspa]

Originally Posted by aofelix

Making people laugh is cool but don't start being the joker of the gang.

but aof, i need some advice on how to have a balance on being the joker. i often make people laugh way too much, and am seen as the funny guy. This has happened way too many times.
i need some help on how to create that balance. What do i need to be other than funny, to win the girl over?

thanks guys, your replies have been great

[Refl3x]

you feel the NEED to make people laugh
stop NEEDING to make people laugh

Originally Posted by entercaspa

but aof, i need some advice on how to have a balance on being the joker. i often make people laugh way too much, and am seen as the funny guy. This has happened way too many times.
i need some help on how to create that balance. What do i need to be other than funny, to win the girl over?

thanks guys, your replies have been great

Have more serious conversations sometimes.. Do you "try" to be funny, or does it come naturally? Do you make them laugh with jokes and stories, or by doing funny pranks, or what? Elaborate more please

Edit:

I just read the title of this thread "One month in planning" <<<<< That is a problem in itself I think

[entercaspa]

Originally Posted by al_phaD

Have more serious conversations sometimes.. Do you "try" to be funny, or does it come naturally? Do you make them laugh with jokes and stories, or by doing funny pranks, or what? Elaborate more please

Edit:

I just read the title of this thread "One month in planning" <<<<< That is a problem in itself I think

that is quite a problem there to be honest, ive just goal orientated myself, which is stupid,

being funny, for me, isn't like a need. I don't feel the need to be funny, its just something i am when im around girls, automatically, i don't know why.
I dont make people laugh by doing pranks, i make them laugh with jokes and stories so i hope i've elaborated there
thanks

Originally Posted by entercaspa

that is quite a problem there to be honest, ive just goal orientated myself, which is stupid,

being funny, for me, isn't like a need. I don't feel the need to be funny, its just something i am when im around girls, automatically, i don't know why.
I dont make people laugh by doing pranks, i make them laugh with jokes and stories so i hope i've elaborated there
thanks

Ok cool..

My advice would be to try and isolate the girl you like..
Also, when you're telling your stories, don't be afraid to throw in some sexual content. Perhaps you're giving off a "best friend" vibe instead of a "lets fuck" vibe.

Also, don't try and game girls indirect all the time. Waste of time and energy. Be direct, be honest, be dominant, tell the girl that after your meal, you two are going back to yours. Always assume interest unless she expresses otherwise. Always assume that things are going well. If she rejects you, don't let it bother you. She probably has her own shit in her life, and remember, some people just won't like you. But there ultimately be more people in the world that DO like you.