thats good advice there alpha thanks you for that, ill try being a lot more dominant and alpha type, i should be back with a field report on monday,
thanks for everything mate

Getting out of friend zone is ALWAYS going to be a tough one and you risk losing a friend but fuck it, you want to fuck her right?

First off this can’t be rushed, you start by teasing her and NOT letting her push your buttons and saying ‘No’ to her.

Gradually say 95% friends/5% game, then 85% friends/15% game, etc.
If you try it too fast you’ll get things like ‘we can’t do that were friends’’
Ideally, what you want is her to realise over time ‘ I quite like entercaspa, how come were only friends’ or her friends to notice.

Use Jealousy (also help you get over you’re oneitis) and lots of it, once you’ve built up some attraction, show her that she could lose you, BUT ONLY when you’ve built some attraction, if you’re still friends she couldn’t give a fuck who you see.

Its a long road but its possible but you’ve got to keep up the gaming and telling her ‘no’ lots and once you start jumping through hoops again and being the friend she can rely on you’re back at square one again. You’re not going to fuck her by being her ‘rock’.

There's no need for all that effort.

Stop talking to someone for a few months, kill the friendship. After a certain period of time all previous relationship mindsets become void and both people start from zero again, you then rebuild their opinion of you differently to their previous one.

It's the same principle used in sales when consumers have an idea that a company doesn't want them to have, low profile for a while, rename, rebrand.

This is true I've noticed it myself when I break apart from a friend for a while and then its always "LETS CATCHUP "

BUT, what if he loses the friend forever?

Same principle as approach anxiety. Don't act and you guarantee failure.

To be honest, im prepared to lose her as a friend. she's going away to train as a horse breeder. I will see her one more time, in three months, and that will be it, unless i make my way to see her. so in our next meet, i will be able to start afresh BUUTT it will be in a "let's catchup" tone, as alpha D had spotted.

Sounds like you're in a good position to move on, get out there and make some new links

Where are you based mate? I'm still pretty new to this stuff. Would be cool to chill.

Also be direct in what you want. Try and show intent as soon as possible. You'll get the hint if shes into you or not. If shes not, then find a different girl .

I live in london mate, would be cool to chill around
I'll have to swallow my AA and just shoot for it on monday

spit whilst you're at it