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Default When Women mention a famous man... - 07-02-2011, 02:21 PM

Why do you guys think women do this? And what are some of the ways you bounce off it?

Ok. I'm speaking to this girl. Cold approach. Night time. It's all going well. I guess she's into me already suggested take her out sometime 'maybe should take me out some time'...

Convo rolls on. All good.

She bites on something I say.

Her-'Omg, we should totally get married!'
Me-' Vegas?'
Her-'Deal'. (Goes for high five-I comply)
Me-'Did you see the Hangover?'
Her-'Oh god yes! Bradley Cooper mmmm'(makes orgasm face bites her lip)

FYI- I look nothing like Bradley Cooper btw.

Me-' Heather Graham mmmmm' (accompanied by my best comedy orgasm face)
Her-She laughs. Ewww. 'We really need to talk about your taste in women.'
Me-'What? She's got great tits and knows how to have a laugh what can I say i'm easily pleased.'
Her- Shakes her head playfully.
Me- 'Don't be jealous it's only Heather Graham.'

Anyway. I change topic make my excuses and get out with her number. It's all good.

I have a handful of Crutches on of which I rely with stuff like this usually:

I used to work in a job that meant I meet alot of famous actors. This sometimes works to establish higher value, but frankly even tho it's 100% true it's very hit and miss. And it's as likely to 'over shoot' or make me come off as a wanker as it is to hook interest. And also the kind of girls I'm actually into would think anyone that says something like this to impress others is a total wanker (and I'd agree). I mean it works (sometimes) and it's true, but it tends to hook twats. And this girl had already convinced me she wasn't one. So I left that angle well alone.

Another Crutch- Also true is:

About the time when I was dating a girl that insisted we both had 5 famous people on our 'allowed list' and then she went to a gig and got invited back stage to meet one of the guys on her's. Though she assured me at the time she didn't fuck him I wouldn't have known either way. Point is this story is interesting too. Since I can get into a conversation about famous men vs famous women based on the idea that A-list actors can and often do just date hot check out girls or whatever. But that the reverse is never really true or common. You don't get A-List actress/stars hooking up with handsome waiters/average joes as a general rule (unless they are strung out on drugs or Jordan). Also it kinda demonstates my value by showing I used to date a girl a rock star tried to fuck, but also makes me sound like a cuckhold

Again. I decided to leave well enough alone in this case.

Also I considered saying:

'Really Bradley Cooper? I thought you'd be more of an Alan-girl myself (Alan being the comedy retard from the Hangover)?'

I guess if she was witty she's have said something like 'is that because I'm talking to you then?' Which could have been fun. I'd have called her out on having something against Autisitc men with beards (what Alan is) and talking about how I thought Alan was hot...

But again...left well enough alone.

So...

Why do you guys think women mention famous men in this way...and how do you tend to react when they do?

I think it's down to things like:

-It's a safe chance to demonstate that she is sexually alive and 'lusts' without explitly showing you that she's NOT lusting on or after you (yet)?
-It's demonstration of higher value - she's trying to tell you that only handsome successful actors/rock stars/ A-List men awaken her sexually and you better somehow demonstrate that you are one or in that bracket?
-It's a test for you to prove you are in 'that' league?
-Or she's one of those crazy arrested adolsent types that has posters of ONE specific famous man all over her walls and measures every man she meets and dates/fucks against this imaginary impossiably perfect ideal (Such women are 'a hit and run' or just 'run' imo).

So what do you guys think?

Looking forward to your thoughts.

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Default 07-02-2011, 04:26 PM

Met a couple of girls who do this....not sure why really
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Default 07-02-2011, 07:53 PM

I'd really like to know the answer to this too. Get it all the time. Id be chilling with a girl trawling through music channels and she'd be like 'they're cute', 'he's hot', 'he's gorgeous' etc. I think it's just an attention thing or trying to provoke a reaction.
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Default 07-02-2011, 08:21 PM

Yeah, Joker, interesting stuff. nice that u described your own famous people experiences too.

next time a bird name-drops, ask her why!
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Default 07-02-2011, 08:39 PM

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What is interesting is not that they say these things but that it cuts you so much.

I just behave exactly as I would if my friend said some famous girl / guy was hot. E.g. I'd either agree or disagree depending on my opinion of the girl / guy, maybe compare them negatively to some other famous girl / guy if I disagreed, etc.


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It doesn't really 'cut me' or anything...I'm just curious. And for the record I think in the context of a flirty first convo or on a first date it's maybe kinda coming from a different place than when someone you know just expresses an opinion about someone famous or whatever? What do other ppl reckon?
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Default 07-02-2011, 08:58 PM

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Yeah, Joker, interesting stuff. nice that u described your own famous people experiences too.

next time a bird name-drops, ask her why!
tbh I wouldn't know how to ask her 'why' without sounding like it had bothered me that she'd brought the famous guy up in the first place?

'Why do you think i'd care that you lust after Bradely Cooper?' -I think that sounds too defensive no?

'Why do you lust after Bradely Cooper' I think will only lead to a conversation about how 'dreamy' he is that I could frankly do without getting onto in that context...I want her imagining me with my top off not old 'super abs' Cooper right?

I think that's sort of at the heart of why women do this maybe? To sort of bring some famous dude kinda 'into' the dynamic in order to blow the guy hitting on her out of the water?

I mean it's not really something a guy would do is it? I'd never name drop a famous bird i wanted to fuck to a girl I was hitting on? It'd generally comes off as crass and vulgar and sad if a guy does that doesn't it?

It's one of those interesting double standards. Girls will kinda drool over some famous man in front of you and I think it's kinda intended to somehow lower your value or something somehow, though I dunno how exactly?

What do ya reckon?
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Default 07-02-2011, 10:17 PM

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I mean it's not really something a guy would do is it? I'd never name drop a famous bird i wanted to fuck to a girl I was hitting on? It'd generally comes off as crass and vulgar and sad if a guy does that doesn't it?
Mr K, give Joker a break, as I think he's onto something interesting.

Joker, exactly -- image I said to a bird "hey, you're brunette -- I like brunettes, just like Jessica Jane Clement has dyed her hair like that and wow she is fit!" or some random disconnect like that. I cannot envisage a positive response.

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tbh I wouldn't know how to ask her 'why' without sounding like it had bothered me that she'd brought the famous guy up in the first place?
OK, well fair point -- theny only try that Q-and-A on either name-dropping new birds that you have approached that you find that you are NOT interested in, or birds who you are already seeing who do the name-dropper. But having said all of that, I personally haven't found this name-dropping-of-unrelated-people-who-don't-look-like-you phenomenon happening a lot.
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Default 07-02-2011, 10:20 PM

I dont think its an indicator of disinterest, but a congruence test for her interest in YOU.
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Default 07-02-2011, 10:34 PM

I asked a few of my female friends about this on fb. Its to provoke a reaction in the other guy rather than to show disinterest. so basically a congruence test in 'PUA' terms.
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Default 07-02-2011, 10:39 PM

Could also be to provoke jealousy but in a way that's gonna cause minimal tension (as opposed to saying that guy over there is hot) and therefore test a mans security. I personally would either ignore it or grief her on her poor choice in actors.


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