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Snake Eyes 19-09-2010 07:03 PM

'5 a Day'
 
Ok, the title of this thread isn't strictly true, but did lead to an enjoyable week anyway, enjoy......

Right so it all started last weekend when I reached a real low point with gaming. I was going out quite a bit and was left feeling rather down as I wasn't getting the results I wanted, AA was creeping back in and I was left thinking this whole Game thing was a bit pointless.

Anyway, I woke up Monday and had a decision - quit or carry on! I realised that my AA was creeping back as I went so long between 'gaming' so I said that's it! 5 approaches a day for a month and lets see if I improve!

Monday

This was a bit of a cheat as I was going to my Ceroc class where I knew I would approach at least 10 girls to ask them to dance, but anyways was a good start and boasted my ego after a de-moralising weekend. So good start. I did also have a couple of conversations with randoms in shops, but they were nothing special (the girls or my game)

Tuesday

Left work, at 6 and still had 5 to do! Don't think my receptionist or the tea boy counts haha. Urbanist from this forum calls so I go to meet him in Covent Garden.

1. Ask a girl on the street if she knows where 'Karma Cafe' is. I chat a bit about my imaginary cafe and eject (she wasn't as hot as I thought).

2. Go into a book store and say 'has that book only got pictures in or something'. It was a bit awkward. She toddles of to go back to her Mum! Opps, I'm pretty sure she was legal though.

3. Right this is bullshit I thought, I need to do a direct opener!! We walk past a shop and the girl is pretty hot in there, so I psych myself up and go in 'hey, I was walking past and said to my friend that girl is hot. Turns out I was right.' Wow, she reacted really well to this! My heart is pounding still from the adrenaline, but manage to carry on conversation for a bit. Goes ok, but I ask for her number and she says she has a BF.

4. 2 girls walk past, 1 has amazing legs, so I I go after them and say ' hey is there room for me under there'. Chat for a bit. I think its going ok, but I am getting rained on a lot. My wing comes and says 'I see you've made some friends.' 'He's trying to!' legs 11 says. Hmm didn't like that, ok see you later! Probably should have carried on, but I was getting wet and felt a bit silly.

5. Chatted to a cute Argentinan girl in Tropidera selling stuff (sorry I know, easy opener!). Ok, but don't think she liked me saying I think all Argentinians look like cartoons. Turns out it is just their football team.

6. It was raining, so I ran under another girl with an umbrella. Next thing I know she is putting cards in my pocket, next thing she is one of the hottest girls I have seen in a while, next I see the cards are for a strip joint (ah that explains it), 'ahh your trying to recruit?' I say 'I'm a great dancer, 'more of a comedian' she says, next thing I know my arms are around her, next my hands are on her arse, next we start dancing, next the biggest Russian dude ever splits us up and I am back in the rain! Opps may have upped kino a bit too quick there!!!

Anyway Tuesday over, not great, but better mood at least. I may have missed an approach here, can't remember!

Wednesday

Again, 6 comes and no approaches!! Balls! Out I go again!

7. Tesco approach about chewing gum, goes no where!

8. Tesco approach about chewing gum, goes no where!

9. Ok, silly Tesco approaches, lets go to Cov G. Andy Yosha the guy from DayGame.com walks past so we go say hi (this is not the approach! - in fact not sure if this even was, but is key to the tale I am about to tell!). We chat and then suddenly 'PUAs' start sprouting from everywhere and there is about 12 guys there all talking about approaches and instant dates! In all honesty this made me feel a bit 'icky' and was shocked at how many other guys there were in the area doing the same thing! Andy said he wanted to see an approach. I was a bit scared! Then a pub crawl girl enters (obviously at having seen so many men in 1 space at 1 time) and he says 'you' (to me). i say 'Hey what's that your, hang on I know you! You were at my house last week'. (background - we were looking for a new room mate, we rejected her because my flat mate was worried she was too young (she's 20) and I fancied her - didn't really want to live with someone I fancied) 'blah blah all excited' we start hugging somehow. I get her to show me her pub crawl approach (she sucks - approached form behind and everything haha). I took her number and said I'd meet her later that evening (see below)

10. Spanish trio L Sq ' hey are you guys Spanish'. 'Yes'. 'Cool we guessed right.' 'what you doing blah blah' I told them a real random story about goats in Wales I made up. Tried to get a role play as them as my Charlie's Angels going. I think language barriers are in effect here so didn't go too well! I said something about what they are up to on their holiday. The really really fit one goes, 'I'm busy every night!' (I didn't even ask her!), hmmm she knows why I came to speak to them haha. Oh well, I did better than another PUA we saw get blown out in about 5 seconds by her earlier. Guess she doesn't like goats!

11. We walk up Regents Street and ask a couple where this bar is. Start chatting. They are Russian, 1 is gorgeous the other not. The gorgeous one is fun and up for a laugh, the other isn't. Gorgeous one wants to come for a drink with us, the other doesn't!! Grrr get gorgeous and start having fun you!! I made sure I was including sour puss as much as the other, but unfortunately she was a sour puss! I try a different number close. 'What's the best way to contact with you?' 'hmmmmm' 'I'll give you a clue, its in your hands haha' 'oh haha, sorry I'm so shy!' (I bet you are not you filthy Russian minx - who actually looks Korean). I N close. I text her to give her my number about 10 minutes later cos she said she might change her mind about joining us. She didn't.

Break - Just going to call this girl now to let you know the result of this........

........hmm straight to VM - maybe a flake! Balls!

12. We walk around for a bit longer - no real approaches (I can't actually remember). I say good bye to my wing and suddenly there is a couple of real cuteys, playing with their shoes. 'Hey your supposed to get changed before you go out!'. (Snake Eyes - 'Cringe worthy openers that your dad might say' from all good book stores £7.99) We chat about stuff and in about 2 minutes I'm N closing a hottie. Cool! She typed so fast I was sure it was a flake, but turns out it was not. Unfortunately I called her Thursday and weirded her out talking about my feathers in my bed and didn't even know her name (must ask girls that when they give me a number - girls do like been referenced as Approach number 12 in my phone!) I don't think she was impressed!

13) So I call pub crawl girl and arrange a meet. I arrive before her so 'approach' the bar maid (haha ok, maybe not an approach, but I've reached my quota here any way!), which is very good when she does turn up as you can see they are both instantly very frosty with each other! (they are both very friendly girls). Cool good to watch, made me feel like 'the prize'.

We then go to another pub. She is very easy to chat to and the fact we rejected her as a house mate, makes her fancy me more I think. She loves my Mickey Mouse impression and I constantly tease her about not having any friends and sleeping on the floor!
She gets up to show me her ass (we're talking about asses) and I touch it, it suddenly gets all heated and we kiss! Yeah!
14) I approach a mixed set to ask them a question about something we're chatting about. We all laugh about Burkas, Shirpas and Gurkas and the mixed set is convinced we have been a couple for ages as we are getting on so well!
We plan our wedding for a bit and then its time to go. I ask where her bus stop is and start taking her there. Hmmm pretty sure I can F close this I think. I stop her and kiss her. 'Lets just get a taxi instead, easier than a bus'. We do, 'to Snake Eyes house please!' She doesn't object. Half an hour later, she is having her 2nd tour of the house and this time she gets to see the Master bedroom!! I get to do my old standing doggy style in front of the mirror routine, although my body is looking more like Max Branin from Eastenders right now than American Pshcyo! Damn Snake Eyes need the gym! We have a very good night and she thoroughly enjoys herself. I am sad when she is gone in the morning, but I have more approaches to do.........

Stay tuned for Friday's story. Involves another direct approach, more girls, a strip joint and Snake Eyes bumps into an old nemises he met in Poland a few weeks back!!!!

Loke 20-09-2010 09:32 AM

I really need to get my day game sorted! :)

BritishPakistani 20-09-2010 11:18 AM

Good for you mate for getting yourself out there again and you are already reaping dividends after day three! I am already looking forward to Friday's story :)

Snake Eyes 26-09-2010 10:33 PM

and we're back, need to keep this thing more up to date, as I think I have missed some approaches here! Anyway this is what I remember

Thursday 16th Sept

Very tired from night with pub crawl girl. Looked a mess, got bad AA. No approaches! Bad Snake Eyes!!

Friday 17th Sept

A bit annoyed at Thursday. AA was creeping back in. I knew I had to snap back into state, so went out at lunch on Oxford Street and told myself I'm not going back until I had done at least 1 direct approach.

15) My heart was pounding at the thought of direct (only done this 3 times before and never to a walking target). After about 20 minutes of making excuses in my head I finally took the plunge and approached a cute blond who walked past.
'Hey this is going to sound kind of random, but I thought you were cute and wanted to say hi.'
Reaction, very good. I was slightly surprised, my heart was still pounding, but kept it going. 'So what you up to etc.' She was some sort of intern, so I teased her about been a tea girl or something'. I guessed wrongly where she was from ( I try to do this rather than boring interview style questions - seems to work better even if you are wrong and they love it when you get it right. Interaction was going ok, but she said no when I asked for a number. She used some excuse about only just meeting me or something (must think of a better way to do this!). Didn't mind though this was my first direct street approach and I felt great as a result.

16)My state was up now all afternoon. Got home and was ready for a night out. A girl parked outside my house, so I asked her who she was. She said 'balah blah, is this where the party is', 'no, lets go there' I say and go with her to the house 2 doors down. It is all quite funny and I say Happy Birthday to the girl who's party it is (don't think it was her B'Day though). 'Hey I know you, we came to your New Years Eve Party' says party girl. 'Oh oh' I thought as I suddenly recognised her and all her flat mates. There was a bit of an incident at New Years that made that house not like me very much (which is a bit harsh - I am very nice guy generally!) We chatted a bit longer, but then I realised they were all looking at me a bit weird, so I left!

17) 2 set at the bar (I am out now), just asked how they were doing. Very receptive to my heighted state of the day. Didn't really fancy them too much though.

18) 2 set on a sofa - I told them they were in our seats (our friend had booked some seats somewhere for his B'Day). They said they had been there since 4, turned into some chat. Was quite funny, but nothing special.

19) Saw a girl I recognised, so said hi. She had some friends with her, 1 of which was an American hottie of Greek decent ("Americano"). Over a week ago now, so can't remember too much of this bit, but remember I was on very good form. Was negging the hot American girl a lot and getting good reactions. She is saying English men are devious (hmm this could be good...)
My friends were leaving to go to an after party, but I declined. I stayed with 3 girls, my other mate and his bird. Carried on teasing all of them and been generally fun and chatty. Went out for a cigarette with 1 of them and was thinking of closing, but didn't (so so glad I didn't given how the story goes later!) Am about to go back with my friend when the girls ask me if I want to come to a strip joint. Hmmm what sort of PUA would I be if I said no, so I looked at the girls and said to my friend 'Nah I think i will stay out for a bit'.
It actually turned out to be a strip club that turned into a night club later (and was actuall quite cool, even if it does sound trashy as hell). I think this is actually a better situation in all honesty. I buy the 1st round of Tequilas as they had got me in for free. Chat a bit more and dance. Start dancing with Americano and we were suddenly very close and I felt a change from friendliness to sexualness. we go out for a cigarette and i think, here we go location chnage again and now we are on our own surely kiss will happen here. Arrgghh we get interupted by an old rambling man. It is funny, but kills the mood. We go back in and our dancing again. The whole time I have Ozzy from Transformations running in my head 'Run the Train, Run the Train'. Bring her in close again and away, all the time thinking how am I going to kiss her. Now what!!
'Hey, are you going to kiss me or what!' says Americano.
Oh yeah, maybe I should just kiss her (stupid PUA material making me think too much). We do, she is not that good to tsrat with, but I let her off as she is hot. She gets better a lot better and we are dancing a lot very close too. Right extraction....
'Hey we should go'. She doesn't really react. Hmmm. Later I try again. I take her by the hand and say 'Come on lets go'. 'What, no I've just met you, I'm going back to my friends tonight'. This is annoying.
We end up leaving the club a bit later about 4ish (me and 3 girls). I know this will be make or break! 1 of them leaves. A taxi stops and the non Americano asks if I'm coming back. I look at Americano and say 'erm yes'. She looks a bit shocked. We get in the taxi and it doesn't move. People are looking at me. 'Erm yeah I'll just come back for 1 drink' I know its bullshit, the girls know its bullshit, the taxi driver knows its bullshit, but regardless we also all know it was a necessary bullshit to get that taxi moving!
Back at their flat watching MTV. Non-Americano goes back to bed and I am left alone with Americano. We kiss a bit more and she says again nothing is going to happen. I know what you English are like. Oh no! MY OLD NEMISIS LMR! Hmmm, however I have had my training in Poland (see previous FR) and am not going to let this one defeat me. I say I never said I was going to sleep with you or something to that effect. I go to the bathroom and when I come out to my horror my shoes are waiting for me at the front door (not where I took them off) and there is no Americano (not the song). She has gone!
Then she is there again and she has changed into her pyjama thingys. Phew! We go into her bedroom and start kissing again. We are dry humping, but I stop as I realised this did me no good in Poland. All I get from that is a whole lot of frustration and pre-cum stained boxer shorts!
I play with her pussy through her pants and then I am in. Once my fingers are wet I am relieved. No turning back! I go down on her and then I hear the sweat words 'Ok we can do it'. My life was made far easier by the fact she came once already and wanted more ( I think from the fingures actually if I am remembering correctly). We have good sex and then a few times the following day. She has an amazing body. Tits just the right size, shape and weight. She has a very nice colour of skin (from her Greek decent) and she has beutifull hazel eyes that make me happy when I think of them now actually. Good result and all because I changed my state by stepping out of my comfort zone and direct approaching earlier in the day.

Saturday 18 Sept (No approaches)
Fucking and pillow taking most of the day (see above)

Sunday 19 Sept (No approaches)
Turn down pub crawl girl for a date, felt a bit bad about this.

Monday 20 Sept (No approaches)
Date with pub crawl girl

Tuesday 21 Sept
Meet up with a guy from the forum. He has his non PUA mate with him. He is really nice, but I'm not really ready for non-PUA knowing about this and seeing me do it (makes me feel a bit lame to be honest as I'm still not very good). Anyway this is what happened:

20) Opened someone right before I met them, but can't remember too much.

21) Asked 2 girls where Karma Cafe is. Woah they are 2 young! Eject!!

22) See a hottie walk past and I'm going direct (same line as before). Again I am almost surprised by how good the response is. Not only that, but the conversation is so much easier due to the adrenaline rush from direct and the fact I'm not just lying to speak to her. I go to grab my phone and say 'there you go' (trying a new technique). She says no, but asks if she can take mine. I haven't heard from her ("sniff she was very hot"). Need to sort out my day closing this week!!!

23) Asked a girl about her sandwich. She is a bit ugly.

24) 2 girls in a bar. My target is hot. I open with 'Hey do you know of any bars that are not so touristy around here' or something like that. We chat for a bit. She asks where I'm from I say london. She asks why I did I ask about bars then. I said I made it up because she was hot and i wanted to speak to her (haha). Goes ok, but my chat is a bit off! They ask us to guard their seats whilst they go fr a cigarette. Some guy comes over and says they have left with another guy or something (very stange they hadn't). I don't want to hang around like chodes so we leave. I don't even say good bye, probably could have pushed, but the fact they had left us there like chodes made me not like the situation.

Very tired, go home a bit ejected.

Wednesday 22 Sept
Date with Americano - very good!!! But no real approaches.
Americans give amazing head or at least this one does.

Thursday 23 Sept
Tired from fucking Americano and getting up at 7. Still no excuse!!! Bad Snake Eyes, no approaches.

Friday 24 Sept
I am meeting Americano later (she is going home on Sunday, so want to spend quite a bit of time with her - I like this girl and she really liked me. However, glad she is going don't really want a relatonship at the mo.
Want to get in my 5 approached before I meet her!

25) See the girl all my work mates had been gawking at outside, so ask to borrow a lighter. Chat for a bit, but then her friend comes. They are leaving. Shame, but at least I know her name and that she works very near me.

26) Ask a girl how she is doing who is sat near me. She is quite fun, but not that fit. She tells me she works for the KGB and then number rapes me! God how many girls have I done this too!!! Suddenly my street approaches make me cringe (not going to stop me though).

27) I chat to girl outside who is looking distressed, but she does not want my help that is for sure! She's not even that fit. The fact I get rejected in front of my work mates, doesn't bother me at all cos my state is very high at the moment. Think its cos of Americano!

28) My work mate wants to go look for girls. Cool lets go I say. we see a couple and I open with something a bit lame but it works. It is 1 of theres B'Day (the fit one). I am teasing her about having no friends and such. Suddenly all my work mates are there hounding us, but is ok. We chat for a bit and then we are leaving to go to the next place. I say they should come join us. They can't. I think 'run the F'ing train'. And I do and it works. I just get keep getting closer and I have my arms round her waist and bang i kiss close to the amazment of my work mates. Only known her 10 minutes cool (ok have kissed closed quicker perhaps, but not in this sort of sit down environment we were in). I take her number and leave.

29) My nimbus is raging!! I really understand what this means now. We are in the next bar and I see 2 girls (Mexicans). 1 is smoking the other is ok. I can't remember how I open, but I remeber it been easy and I felt like everyone I spoke to was in love with me. I pull the hottie in and start cerocing her much to the amazment of my lovable, but chode like work mates. We have some of our huge cocktail that work people have bought. I chat to some other people and its time to go meet Americano. Hmmm I'm going to test my state before I go. I grab hot mexican girl from my work mate (I feel a bit bad a bout this now actually , but he wouldn't have done anything) and say I'm leaving and just kiss her so easily. I can't explain how effortless it was. I think my higher state was mainly due to becasue things are going so well with Americano, but it did feel good. This is now my goal to acheive this state whenever I go out! I FB close (she has no UK number) and leave.

30) I chat to some hen party. I can feel they want me. No kidding, I definately reached a new place on Friday that I want to be again!

31) I chat to some milfs on tube. It is very flirty and fun. I feel radiant.

32) I go chat to some girls in a club who I thought I knew, but then realise its not them. Thought I'd include it as they just seemed to except I was there. Was only when I realised that they weren't the friends of Americano that it was weird.

33) Again not really an approach, but a reminder to myself that this state can be acheived. A girl grabs me and starts dancing with me. She keeps calling me shy and trying to get close. I go to see Americano who is looking a bit upset by this and kiss her. Not caring at all dancing girl comes up and starts telling Americano how fit I am!! (No darling that is actually just heightened state you are experiencing!). Eventually my other female friend grabs dancing girl off her and tells her to back off (she is friends with her too I think, isn't hostile or anything).

Saturday 25 Sept

Had a lot of sex with Americano and we talk about what she thought of me when she first met me. Was quite interesting:
'Yeah so you came up and chatted to us ("opener"), but then you kept on been really mean to me ("hmm that will be negs"). I wasn't sure if you liked me ("erm she needs my validation or soemthing"), but my friends seemed to like you though ("social proof"). We then went to that other bar and you were very touchy ("kino"), espceially when we were dancing ("escalation"). I liked your dress sense (haha no one had ever said this before "peacocking" I guess). You took me outside ("isolation") and I got to know yo a bit better ("comfort") and then we went and danced again and you were relentless all over me ("running the train").
She didn't say it quite as mechanically as that, but she did mention all these things which made me laugh. I'm going to start asking 'success girls' about my approach to see what I did, because I can't always remember and it is quite funny!

Oh and also she gave me her fucking guitar!! Yes an actual electric guitar! Cool, my first trophy from PUA!

Sunday 26 Sept

Absolutely nada! Have been lazy this week as I had it easy with the American girl. Now I am back to nothing (well apart from Pub Crawl perhaps), so need to up my game a bit and start actually doing '5 a day' - starting tomorrow. I can already feel my state dropping, went to a sunday lunch today and could already feel my chat is stifled again and I'm going in my own head a bit again. Hmm definately not 'fixed' yet, but the last 2 weeks has been good for me!

Until next time......

Snake Eyes 29-09-2010 11:30 PM

Monday 27 Sept
Nothing. No more excuses!

Tuesday 28 Sept
Felt really ill and wanted to go home, but got annoyed at myself and said I have to do this '5 a day' for 30 days or else!!

34) Street. Directional Opener, went no where! Lame

35) Street. asked where a shop was. Chatted for a bit, but still crap!

36) Street. Passed a smiley newspaper girl, so told her I liked her smile! Had a good chat, but after 20 minutes found her a bit grating and not sexy enough, so purposly did not close.

37) Street. 2 hot Frenchies. I told them they looked lost. Tried to be flirty, ended up me just giving directions! Lame!

38) Tesco. No hotties, so I opened an unattractive middle aged not really English speaking lady carrying tampons just to fill my quota of the day. We talked about self service machines - lame!!

Today proved I can still approach when ill, just really really badly!!

Wednesday 29 Sept

39) Street. Ran under a girls umbrella. She went into a restuarant where I wasn't welcome!

40) Bar. Asked a 3 set if 'I could borrow their hairdryer'. 'no'. 'What kind of girls are you, no hairdryer!' Was quite funny. Warm up really, not quite fit enough, but they seemed to quite like me. Ejected after 5 minutes.

41) Tesco. Asked a girl where I ca get an umbrella (seems to be a theme here). We laughed about life. I went off and she went back to her BF who had been galring at us the whole time. Epp!!

42) Bar. Opened a 7 set with hairdryer opener. Logistics bad as no seat for me. More of an entertaining monkey really, but still pleased I succesfully opened a 7 set. Turned into a 9 and the 2 newbies thought I was part of the group, so obvioulsy interacting ok. Flirted quite well with a hired gun here too.

43) Pret. Opened about coffee or something. Real good little set, but she had to go get a tube or soemthing and I didn't number close as I got NA (number anxiety) due to my recent flakes! Silly silly Snake Eyes! She kept on waving her phone around and made it clear she was single too! So stupid! Lesson learnt here! Will not do this again!

We then ended up randomly at an International language learning social night (yep I only just learnt these existed too). Opened quite a few here, but will only tell you about hotties (others don't really count, although probably more so than tampon lady yesterday!!)

44) Real cute Venuzalian girl. Just said hi when she was getting chatted to by another man. She taught me how to say 'I want a pet pig' in Spanish. I told her she looked like a raccoon. She said I was fun. I said I was going to take her out. Touchy touchy. N close. I really shouldn't care, but I really hope she doesn't flake. I really fancy her!

45) Tall sexy Swedish girl. Just said hi. Not so flirty as above, but still fun. I teased her and we made up a band called the North Atlantic Express (hmm not sure if this will catch on!). N closed.

Both the above were not sexual enough. Will be interested to see where they go.

So today I have learnt I can do ok when I am ill and I am fairly pleased with results tonight. Got into state real quick (felt good after 40 onwards). Soon this will just be me!

Listed to RSD Transformations a bit today. Very good stuff.

Snake Eyes 30-09-2010 10:53 PM

Thanks

Thursday 30 Sept

Still ill, but still doing my 5 plus!

46) Had a real flirty conversation with a hired gun on the way to Tesco for my lunch today. My workmate was amazed at my banter with her. Not sure if this is strictly true, think he is just insecure because he was recently dumped, but good to see this is starting to get noticed. Must be working! Other work mate was amazed at my performance last Friday too which is also a good sign. Didn't N close - perhaps should have pushed for it! Silly especially after yesterday!!

47-53) Can't be arsed splitting these, as they all came to the same conclusion really. went to a 'Singles night' that a friend of a friend put on. Was quite fun, but only 2 fit girls and they all had their bitch shield up like anything which I found strange.

I've been to a speed dating event before and had girls eating out of the palm of my hand. Thought this would be the same as odds were even in my favour. In fairness I think a lot of girls were into me, but I didn't like them. However, still a lot of ugos been frosty. I think because it was a singles night, they really had their guard up and I was opening with a very needy frame (even though I don't think I acted needy particularly). So glad I am into this stuff - as this shit is all the chodes have got!!!

Of the 2 fitties, 1 didn't like me and I found her a bit boring. The other was going well then I got AMOGed with questions such as blind vs deaf? What vision would you take with you if you did lose your sight? from this guy. Handled very well. Then stupidly started chatting to him and she walked off to her friends. I'm too nice - felt like I should include him just because of social politness! Then put me in a bad frame as she had left me high and dry!

Got Reverse AA too again tonight which is silly (see 1st field report I ever did).

Lesson learnt - don't do things to be socially correct. If a guy interupts just half acknowledge and then ignore (assuming she is too). No need to entertain crowd if you have her isolated already. He can F off! I can even use this to bring my status up as we are in on him been a lame guy trying to hit on her!
Also if I don't like a girl just leave!!!

Lesson 2 learnt - Singles nights are as lame as they have the reputation for or at least this one was. I don't need this to get pussy!

Lesson 3 learnt - I am good at making up stories and role playing - think I am going to try some of the role palying stuff Tim does on Transformations tomorrow. I think this fits in with my personaility well as I have a vivid imgination.

I left with no closes. Not even worth it!

Tomorrow is Friday - going to do a direct aproach at lunch to bring my state up and then hopefully good night out!

urbanist 02-10-2010 11:33 AM

Yo Snake youre unstoppable dude! I like how you never consider a set immposible even that seven set. haha yeh that language exchange thing was a laugh, i kept avoiding the organiser and when we came clean he said "Oh so thats why youre avoiding me!" haha.

Hopefully see you later mate.

nova 05-10-2010 12:26 PM

Good lessons learnt there, makes it all the more worthwhile writing these field reports.

Snake Eyes 05-10-2010 11:21 PM

Friday 1 October

Argghh just read the end of my last post - never did my direct at lunch! This could have changed things. Started the evening badly after 3 texts sent at lunch and no replies (2 numbers from last week and Pub Crawl girl - yes even PCG didn't text me back! Bad place!)

Anyway Friday I resorted back to my old ways a little bit. Got drunk and kissed quite a mediocre girl - still did my 5 though (think there was more actually but memory a bit hazy)......

54) Hired Gun on door. Flirty and fun. She was quite hot and despite been a hired gun I think digged me. I really want to get hired guns nailed over the next few months!

55)+56) Got a hena tattoo in this bar we were in. It was Arabian themed night. Got chatting to 2 seperate 2 sets as a result. Nothing came of it though. Hmmm anything learnt? Maybe doing different stuff is cool, always go for it if you have the chance.

57) 2 set outside smoking area. 1 quite fit the other not. Got on with them quite well, but never really hooked. Went back another time, but same not hooking problem.

58) 2 set by a pole. I had been on and off chatting to them all night. Invited them to sit with me and a work colleague (as all the others left). I was charming, but drunk charming. They said they had to leave and I kissed mine for a bit. She was okish, but a bit older. My standards should be higher!! I am not the minger shagging slapper I used to be!!

My work mate asked me why I always do that! kiss girls and don't follow through. Hmm maybe I should be asking myself the same question!!

Saturday 2 October

A bit down about the previous night, but still motivated!

Got major AA on the way to the gym. Followed a hot Latino girl for a bit and was about to approach when I saw she met a very young girl - freaked me out as I thought maybe she was young too (looking back, judging by the rack on her I don't think she was). Geeed myself up to at least do a directional opener, but she had disappeared. Annoying - I really want to get in with the Latinos on Old Kent Road - some of the women are hot!!

59) Gym receptionist. Took her from been miserable to pretty happy! Guessed she liked R&B and teased her for being a lame R&B girl! Guessed wrongly she was from the outskirts of London. Maybe should go for close next time. She is quite hot, but worried she there isn;t much else to her though! She also tols me something quite worrying. My gym card wasn't used in all of September! Shit, no wonder my body is looking worse than it has for years!! I need to concentrate on other areas of my life still!!

60) Hot blondie and old woman in gym. Took ages to get courage up to open. Couldn't think of a way in. In the end I went up next to her on the blue mats and did a crab (like the gymnastic thing) and asked her opinion on my form (haha for the more flexible of you why don't you try my crab opener!! - exercise not pubic lice!). She liked my form. We chatted for a bit. Now at least I can say hi next time and hopefully close)

Met up with some guys from here anf other sites. Was buzzing a little bit from the epidrine I took before gym (sorry didn't tell you this guys). However I felt this almost hindered my game as I was talking quite fast and made me a bit anxious.

61) 2 set bar. Opened with hairdryer thing again. Chatted for a bit, but they thought I was weird I think and I ejected. I should probably try to work through this rathe rthan just eject!

62) 2 set Covent Garden in the middle bit. Hot French. Directional. Lame!

63) 1 set. Situational about T-Shirt. German. Eventually got her to stop walking. Ok chat. Didn't hook. Said she had a BF when I asked for number. I said it didn't matter he was in Germany, but going no where.

64) 1 set Brazillian hot. Direct (random, cute, hi). She didn't have a clue what I said, but I think my body language conveyed this was more than a mere directional opener!! Little fun chat. Had a little Spaish English lesson like with Venuzulian. What's the best way to contact you. N close. Not amazing, but good little set.

In the evening I went to Ninja Tunes 20th B'Day in a car park. Was cool, but not that many fitties there. However, my new social skills did land me some free drugs that were nice. Had kodeine after I got home at 6 in the morning too. Definately hindered my game this week though - going to tee total on this front for a bit!!

Number updates - Swedish - no reply, PCG no reply (WTF!), Venuzalian reply (yeah she was my favourite anyway!)

Sunday 3 October

Eurrgghh - forced myself to go out! Not feeling great as you can imagine! Went bad!!! I said to a guy from here that direct never goes bad. 2 hours later - it went bad!!

65) Street direct (random, like your boots). Boots were from primark hmmmm! Enter the BF. Opps! He looks pissed at me! Snake Eyes is going to leave now!

66) Walking around in a hungover/comedown state. Have to open!! Karma cafe opener. Not even fit doh. Pointless!

67) Sitauational about I Store. 2 set. Not that fit. Eject

68) And now we have it this weeks winner of 'creepiest approach of them all!' Hot girl, forced myself to follow her (that sounds bad!). Followed her down a dark alley (hmmm), she could hear me for ages behind her - probably sensing me working up the courage to open. Eventually direct opened (random, cute, hi). Bad approach, nervous, quick, quiet, unconfident poor body language. Felt weird!! Kind of a Harold Shipman type approach - not recommended!
She looks at me and.........

......bursts into laughter. Ego bruised I run away!! At least it wasn't pepper spray!!

69) Asked a mother and daughter where a cash machine is! At least they didn't laugh at me!

Lesson 1 - Drugs, drink and cigarettes are harming my game! Stop!

Lesson 2 - I can number close with direct now! Yes! Also, the 'what is the best way to contact you' Number Close works way better than can I have your number (reeks of please please pretty please!!!)

Lesson 3 - Need to push sets even if they are feeling awkward! Can always learn - even from no go sets! If it is going bad I should try maybe experimental techniques of some sort or have some sort of canned hook. Like I have canned openers if I am feeling AA! I think I need natural with a sprinkle of canned at this stage in my game.

Lesson 4 - Horrible sets on Sunday - but didn't actually upset me. In fact make me laugh! More approaches you do the more thick skinned you get! I shouldn't have ejected either just because she laughed. Should have at least rode it out. Negged her quickly or something!

Will continue my diary later - is getting late!

Cefai 06-10-2010 02:46 AM

Keep it up snake eyes. You get an A for effort.

Snake Eyes 11-10-2010 11:38 PM

Monday 4 October

Exhausted and on a comedown.......

.....I did 5 online approaches! Arrgghhh

After much thought and deliberation I think this along with my 3 approaches on Friday 8 October is an automatic fail (erm learning experience..........no Snake Eyes no in this case fail!! Online is not an approach, 3 approaches is not 5 approaches!). Haha anyway, so I have failed my first attempt at 5 a day for 30 days, but to be honest this hasn't disheartened me. I am still making incrediable progress and this 5 a day was messing me up. I have managed to fuck myself financially this month (although gaming was only a minor contribution ot this), my work quality has gone down and my body and fitness is messed up! Also, I was only approaching for the sake of it cos I got so tired. Right so what to do.......

I need to chill out on the spending and get myself in shape for the Dorset stickler I'm doing on 31 October, so I really need to concentrate on that for a few weeks. I will still game for the remainder of this month and post my thoughts here. However, my 5 a day challenge will officially commence again on 1 November. I will have a few rules this time....

New rules for '5 a day'
1) Online approaches do not count
2) Pointless approaches do not count i.e. girls I don't fancy
3) No approaching for the sake of approaching! 100% all the way
4) Can not carry over approaches even if I do more than 5.
5) But, if it looks like I'm going to get laid I can stop at that approach. However, to make up for this I must make up the remaining approaches in the next 48 hours!

Right so bull shit over, here is how my week went.....

Tuesday 5 October

Met 2 wings, still tired and coming down!

70) Feeling real nervous today so started indirect. Went bad.

71) 3 foreign girls, Oxford Street. 'Russian' I shout. They say yes. I say cool I guessed right. Chat for about 3 minutes. Felt awkward, but manage to get a number close. Wow. Think its a flake, but stay tuned Snake Fans...... (Saturday 9 October)

72) Something in Boots that had no real impact on my life or hers.

73) Piccadilly fountain. Sexy German school kids (they said they were 19) not so sure! Can' remember what I said, but it went well until stupid teacher took them away from creepy PUA man in a suit haha! Boosted my state though!

74) Did another indirect badly - time to go home!!! Too tired, kind of gave up! (apologies my memory is very hazy of this day)

75) Got home. Went for dinner. Spanish girl in Tesco. She drops her sausage, I pick it up (not to be confused with the sausage approach - wrong forum!). We start chatting. Conversation dries up. I see she is kind of looking at me longingly, but then she runs off. Later in the bread isle, she is there again. I say hello again. We chat. I ask her where she lives, call her a fisherman or something, tease her about something else, I can see she wants me big time, 'what's the best way to contact you', bang close! Kind of pleased I managed 2 numbers when I was feeling so bad (turns out neither were flakes either)

Wednesday 6 October

76) My mate at work asked me if I had ever read 'The Game'. 'Erm yeah..... ages ago' I replied. 'Yeah its really cool' he says. Hmmm I say 'do you want to do some approaches at lunch?'. He says yes. Cool! Bit nervous, mainly because this will probably ruin my big pimp reputation at work when they realise how much I get blown out, but hey. I need to destroy my stupid ego anyway (more on this getting me in trouble later - in a pretty big way!!). So we go out and immediately I directly approach a girl who he says is hot. She is German doesn't undertstand. 6 more Germans come along to see what the fuss is about. I say something neither an Englishman or Germanman could understand and bail.

77) A load of students. My target was fit. Was just a chat though about their stupid space mobile thing. Those crazy students!!!

78) Bad approach in a toruist shop

Meanwhile my 'newbie' mate has gone into chat to a girl sitting on the step and spends the whole lunch chatting to her and number closes on his first approach. Damn it!! Beginners luck haha. Actually I'm really proud of him. I ask him how he opens and he just says he said ' hi I saw your own your own so came to chat to you.' or 'Hi are you on your lunch break, cool me too, I'll sit with you' sure it was something along those lines. Very natural and another argument against canned openers!

After work meet some wings!

79) Street ticket girl. Nice chat, fit, goes no where!

80) indirect cafe opener bad!

81) indirect cafe opener bad!

82) Super fit! Meant to go direct, get tongue tied, indirect cafe opener sort of. Was really more of a weird noise!

83) Finally get the balls to do direct. Run up to a girl (literally she was moving fast). I say ' hi I was walking past you and told my friend I thought you were hot so I thought I would tell you.' (was really out of breath from my sprint - this is why I need to train for my race!!!). She is flattered and we speak for a bit, but she has a BF (or at least tells me she does). Oh well I am happier now at least.

84) Aussie 1 Bar. Just chat for a bit. Sorry can't remember opener.

85) Aussie 2 Bar outside. Same group. Chat, number close weak. She is leaving next day, so I never actually called to see if this was a flake.

86) Street, something about shoes. Doesn't stick. Wings say I have no AA, which pleases me. Unfortunately they are wrong on this.

87) 2 set 1 English girl and 1 Venuzalian (back at language thing). Turns out to be other Venuzalian's house mate! See previous posts. Yeah my sexy Venuzalian is here.....

Right into lock down mode. I flirt well with my Venuzlian, make her laugh, we touch a lot and do some more Spanish English lessons. I am chatting to other girls and guys too and generally making good impression. I go upstairs for a tap water. I don't approach as I'm set on my Venuzalian (FIRST MISTAKE). I go back down and chat some more. Sexy one says how fun I am. Guys keep coming in, but I am their favourite, ok seems to be going well. We start dancing a bit. I am doing bits of Ceroc and they are teaching me Venuzalian dancing. I teach them silly English dancing including the 2 handed pill head dance, the Hip Hop wannabe 1 handed dance, the box, the car and the card shuffle. They lap it up!!

I teach her about fuck buddies which she finds amusing and adds sexy vibe. I point out some chode and say he could be her fuck buddy. She laughes and is going good. Tease her about been an angel or something.

More dancing, but what is this!! First AMOG. He is an amazing dancer and steals my girl (apart from dancing he isn't much though!). I know I can't dance as good as him, so I say 'hold up, right everyone lets do English dancing. Box dance! The 2 Venuzalian girls and some random dude start following. The car, They follow! Card shuffle. They follow! 'Okay okay and now for the finale, I'm going to show you the pinnacle of English dancing. This took like 10 years to master! I do the lawn mower (this was actually taught to me by a South African!). They love it and AMOG 1looks at me funnily and runs off with his tail between his legs. Good.

AMOG 2 is dancing with my girl. Damn, this is a big problem with fitter girls!! I dance with not so hot Venuzalian for a bit, but the other one is not biting and carries on with AMOG 2. I fear V2 wants to pull me which I don't want, so I stop and go chat to my wing! I start getting a bit stressed about AMOG 2 (MISTAKE 2) and ask him about it. He tells me to chillout, but I am get quite worked up actually (MISTAKE 3 - in fact this ruins me) (luckily is out of sight of V1 though)!. I am way over stressed - think tiredness from week is partly to blame). He says 'just chill out' 'Don't think, do!'. So I go back and in between songs grab her again. we dance, it is fun, but I can sense I have lost her. She is looking around and looks at her watch too. Oh no!! 'I going home soon' she says. 'Yeah me too!' I say (MISTAKE 4 - very reactive). I get my coat. She is not leaving doh. I hang around a bit (MISTAKE 5) and chat to my wing. Eventually we agree I am doing more harm than good and decide to go. Live to fight another day and all. I say good bye. I then say 'yeah we still on for Saturday yeah (MISTAKE 6 - needy!) and hug her again quite expectently (MISTAKE 7). She says yeah of course, I will text you. I leave! She never text!

Ok this was a bit messed up. The other big mistake (MISTAKE 8) I made here was not upping the sexual tension when I had the chance. I should have been making her break the eye contact and letting her break the awkward silences. This worked in Poland and I forgot to use this as I was all stressed out! I don't think this is completely dead, but it will be hard to revive. May drop a text tomorrow to test the waters here. I should also probably not have gone back to where I met her initally (POSSIBLE MISTAKE 9). I met her on her terms and this has bitten more than once before. Will let you know if I manage to turn this around. However, this is a good example of a guy putting to much emotional investment in 1 girl (see previous posts too - how smitten I am!). Don't do this!!!

I am knackered!!

Thursday 7 October

Need sleep!!

Meeting non PUA friends. Hmmm this will be interetsting.

88) Woman at bus stop - would not count under new rules!

89) Girl on street approaches me! Just directional. probably not aloud under new rules.

My mate is chatting to his ex when I arrive. She is cute, but hands off this one, is my friends ex. However, she lights up when I get there and says to my friend how she is pleased he has some cool friends which I kind of like.

90) Bump into guy. Girl jumps up and aplogises on his behalf. No problem. We start chatting and get on great. They are on a date. She wants to buy me a drink. Ok. She does and slips me her number afterwards. I am pleased at this and also please I at yet more free stuff from girls!! My mates mate asks if I did some Game shit there (what what - how do they know!!! haha).

91) Girl outside. Pretty fit. Goes no where though.

92) American girls. Not fit, but dig us. I am getting too smashed.

93) More tequila and I am completely smashed. Ego enters! Do not drink and game - now I will tell you why.........

.......I am pretty confident as I have been really social all evening and all the girls I have chatted to seem to like me! I see a 2 set. I am convinced in my drunken head I can kiss 1 in 2 minutes (not even because I want to - but because my ego wants to prove to all the guys that I can).

I open. We do stuff with cameras! It is going well, we are all laughing. I some how make them do animal impressions. I isolate the fitter one. In my head its going well. We are really kinoing. I keep putting her hands on me. Telling her to stand closer. Putting my hands on her. In my head it is all fun! She goes off to see her friends for a sec. I go back to the guys I'm with all happy and proud of myself. 'Wow' they say ' yeah' i say thinking they are going to be all imprssed. 'Wow, you were kind of forward there!' 'Erm sorry', 'Yeah you were kind of forward there'. 'No she liked it, I say' 'Erm are you sure, ok I guess' 'yeah of course, she loves me' I beem.........

......I see them outside with my friend so I go in to prove my point that she loves me and go start chatting to him. The girl, her friend and 2 other guys she is with all look at me nervously and walk off quite quickly.
My drunk mate who has known (and respected me to this moment) since I was 0 years old looks at me and says ' Wow they were talking about you!!!'
'What' I say.
'You're the really forward guy!! '

Then suddenly like a playful puppy who has just realised they have done soemthing wrong it dawns on me people are angry at me! 'Bad Dog!!! Bad Snake Eyes!!' Oh oh I have done wrong!

I was not running the train like Ozzy from Transformations said. No instead, 'do do duddle la duh du' it is Rapey the Clown!!!!! Oh no after I tried so hard to avoid him before (Rapey is a charcter introduced in previous posts, he is sort of playful and entertaining, but also kind of 'rapey'). I had been a sleazy drunk not a smooth player type guy! Completely out of my natural character and shows me off very badly in front of all these people that don't know me too well and probably embarass my friend for having me as a friend (if he wasn't so drunk). The worst thing is only I know what was going on in my head. Firstly I thought it was all really playful in my drunk mind (poor drunken puppy) and secondly I only wanted to kiss her to look cool not because I was lusting after her (ok this still makes me look pretty bad..... maybe worse in fact!!). BAD RAPEY!!

94) Yeap I'm still going!! Where's a taxi when you need one! I tell the guys I can open anyone in the bar and I was just trying something new back there that back fired (they look at me weird - oh yeah Snake Eyes that will be the whole PUA thing you've been keeping a secret for the last few months there haha!! I badly approach a hot blond.

95) I chat to some minger outside still drunk and delusonally full of myself!!

Finally I get some sense and I go home.

Friday 8 October

Head ache....realisation.... regret.... actually probably wasn't as bad as I made out and I still have lots of lessons learnt.....

LESSON 1 - Never game for the sake of it as I have been. Basically black or white never grey!! Either don't do it or push through it (preferably the latter if you can!!)

LESSON 2 - Still got 2 solid numbers when my game felt at its weakest. I am obviously starting to make a subconsious change from all these social interations. Even though Wednesday and Thursday went bad I am still happy right now and am happier generally than I have been in years. Just from 4 weeks or so of solid gaming!

LESSON 3 - Don't fill your head with crap. Just do it (see my newbie mate). (However is still a good idea to have backup openers, hooks, negs etc if you become tongue tied. These should just be for emergency though - not the norm. More on this later)

LESSON 4 - Still approach even if you have your heart set on 1 girl (this could have altered my mid set with V1). This would have stopped my neediness and 1 itus with her on that evening.

LESSON 5 - AMOGs will AMOG you. However, fun stuff can destroy cool stuff (see dancing). If you do get AMOGed. Don't stress. Keep haing fun and don't be bothered! Even if he 'out games' you its no big deal. Even Muhammed Ali was not undefeated!! Just learn and improve!

LESSON 6 - Sexual escalation. Eyes and silences. Make her break it - see previous posts on Polish trip!

LESSON 7 - Be careful gaming when drunk. It throws your social compass way off!!! What you view as fun might not be the case for everyone!!

LESSON 8 - Be careful of gaming in front of non PUAs before you get good!

Ok getting late again. Will finish up for now and continue my weekend/today's antics tomorrow.........

Phil 11-10-2010 11:46 PM

0k its gettin late so i didnt read ur post but i got the jist... THIS IS BOSS... i reckon i may do a 5 a day...

as soon as i move into town... i will do a 5 a day like this BELTER IDEA MATE

like it

nova 12-10-2010 05:13 AM

Even blazing through the approaches on a come down! Immense stuff. Like the new rules, and the lessons learned hit the spot again. Favourite bit has to be your persistance when going back in and closing the Spanish girl in Tesco. Inspiring stuff.

Cefai 13-10-2010 12:53 AM

This is all great Snake Eyes. Though there's 2 of these new rules that I'm not sure I agree with...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Eyes (Post 28299)
2) Pointless approaches do not count i.e. girls I don't fancy
3) No approaching for the sake of approaching! 100% all the way

...if I was using those 2 rules myself, then I know I'd use them as excuses not to approach. I say the approaches to the girls you don't fancy is a good thing. It's practice, get's you in a social mood and gets you G'd up for approaching the hotter girls.

Also, sausage props for keeping up the approaches, even after learning everybody was wary of you being 'Rapey the clown' (That name makes me lol). I know my ego would of slapped me in the face and stopped me approaching for the rest of the night.

Good stuff buddy

themaxx 14-10-2010 01:18 PM

Holy crap just found this thread - SE you're a machine good work buddy

Snake Eyes 14-10-2010 07:25 PM

Thanks guys! Your support is much appreciated!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cefai (Post 28357)
...if I was using those 2 rules myself, then I know I'd use them as excuses not to approach. I say the approaches to the girls you don't fancy is a good thing. It's practice, get's you in a social mood and gets you G'd up for approaching the hotter girls.

Good point! The idea was to stop myself from counting things like this...

"69) Asked a mother and daughter where a cash machine is!"

Kind of ironic that one is 69!!

I will still be chatty with everyone, but if it is obviously not a proper approach I will not count it.

Snake Eyes 14-10-2010 08:54 PM

Friday 8 October

Met some wings, so so tired and hungover!!

96) 3 set in a bar, just for the sake of it! Asked about the lottery and talked about been millionaires!

97) Something crap, can't remember!

98) 2 set lottery opener

So this is the 2nd part of my failed attempt at '5 a day', but don't worry the rest is doing me good and I'm pumper for when '5AD V2' starting in November. This time I am ready!!

Saturday 9 October

But before then let me tell you how the rest of the week has panned out........

Location: Westfield shopping centre

99) Met a 'wing original' and some new guys too. Immediately 1 says she's hot and I'm off! Gonna go direct gonna go direct! She walks into a shop ah balls! I follow! Crowded shop, direct original
'hey this is going to sound random, but your kinda cute and I just wanted to say hi'. She looks confused!! 'What hello, do you work hear' she says in broken English! Arrgghh that old chesnut. I tease her about outfits she should wear. She starts to warm to me. She asks me if if I am shopping or just walking around talking to girls!! EEP!! 'No of course not that would be weird haha (nervous laugh)' We chat a bit more. I move her to a quieter bit of the store. I guess wrongly she is Russian! Even better she is Polish! Yes my old favourite!! I talk about my trip to Poland (omiting all the bits from my Polish FR!! Haha). A number close in the usual way! It is kind of awkward as she wants to take my number. I try to call her, doesn't work because of reception, we go outside, finally get each others phones to work and have each others numbers. By no mean a smooth take off or landing, but we just about got there on this one!

100) Book Store: asked what book she has, said I was looking for a present for my Dad. Teased her about her poor book choice. It was an illuminious purple guide to being a woman or something. Started reading embarassing bits of the book to her. Very flirty and fun, but something is bothering her. Hmmm. Enter the BF. Instead of running away like I did before I stood my ground chatted for a bit and went off. I could sense she wanted me, but hey.

101) Boots: 'Your a bit old for that aren't you?' Quite fit blond looking at baby toys or something. 'MUM!' ....Wooah!! Eject Eject! Made me feel bad this one and got AA for a bit again. Took me a while to start approaching again.

102) M&S: Something observational. Decided I didn't fancy her.

103) See a girl on her own, with empty seat next to her! Kerching!! 'Can I sit here?' 'Yes'. We have a good chat. She seems a bit in awe of me. Cool! Only 18, ok that will be it! Just about to close and the goon patrol arrives (her friends!). Balls. I great them like old friends and tell them how excited she is about their meal tonight (I had been teasing her 2 minutes earlier about how bored she seemed about her evenings plans and she had laughed - so now we got are own in joke see!)
Carry on ploughing and talk about some cool stuff she simply must come to! FB close. Chat for a bit and I'm off for my date with the Estonians......

So remember that 2 minute number close on Oxford Street (71) that I thought went crap. Yep here's my Day 2 with them (just goes to show that you should always plough - you never now their situation)......

I had called her on Thursday this week. Again she had seemed frosty, which worried me, but when I called her on this morning her voice had changed. It was more 'Hey Snake Eyes, I'm really glad to hear your sexy voice again, please Snake Eyes take me tonight and fuck me hard (she didn't say this of couse, but I could tell and it felt game on!)
We met at the tube. They were hot, much hotter then I remember! My one I am especially digging! Immediately mine says she is ill and can't stay long! Hmm not a good start!! Yeah yeah, whatever.

So this was a double date with a wing I regularly go out with. He was late so I met both of them and took them for a tour to Tower Bridge and stuff! Was kind of cool, but a bit awkward.Eventually he arrives and it settles a bit. I am feeling a bit tongue tied though, but luckily my wing is carrying it thorugh and I don't feel any attraction drops from me.

After a bit of a fuck up in venues we go to a fairly cool bar and buy some drinks. I pay for a bottle of wine. I don't make a habit of doing this, but don't think it effected the date either way.
We start to get comfortable and my awkwardness goes. Kinoing is increasing with my one and suddenly I get that Game on feeling again. We are very close and it is very jokey and flirty! I tease her about how they have no cars in Estonia, just horse and carts amongst other things. My wing is busy giving English lessons to the other one. My one is still looking hot, but her eyes look very tired (still sexy sexy Estonian blue though!!)

My one starts telling me how cool it was how I had approached her. She says back home she goes up to people and compliments them, but a lot of people find it weird here (and very very scary sexy Estonian girl haha). However, on that same day apparantly she had had 3 other guys approach her! She had even given one her number, but she preferred me, she said as I have a sexy voice and I am handsome. Awwww. Yes Game on I win!!

We continue, but my ones eyes are going a bit funny still! 'I'm sorry Snake Eyes, I really want to stay, but I still feel so ill!'..........Game off I lose!!

It was such a shame! I am quite perceptive of these things and I generally know when a girl is not into to me. This one was into me in a big way! Judging by how hot her forehead was I think she was genuinely ill! We leave for the tube. I consider kissing her, but think 'what is the point'. Sex is definately not up for grabs, I will be the guy who tried to kiss her when she was ill and more importantly I do not want to get ill!!

She has left the country now sob.....

104) Ok so its Saturday night still. I'm going out! Spanish club Leicester Sq: B'Day girl. Fun but not interested.

105) 2 hot blonds: Kind of interested, but no hook.

106) Spanish something: See above.

107) Tall tall girl in club. We get on well. Dancing close. we do mock leery dancing taking the piss out of other guys. Gets a bit hot, but not steamy. Not feeling kiss yet. She suddenly has to go with her friend for a drink. Oh well! Try talking to her once more, but she is slightly dismissive. I am tired and don't have time for her so I leave!

I think there was more here, but I did not have the energy for it this night. I was very deflated by Estonian girls, as I really thought I was going to have her sexy curvy tanned body jumping around on my cock that night.Oh well she will be back soon (although by then she will be a very mediocre girl I suspect after my '5AD V2'!!)

LESSON 1: You need sleep and to eat healthy to do this! I am going to plan this a lot better for 5AD V2

LESSON 2: Sometimes things really are out of your control, don't sweat it - unless any of you guys have a routine for making an ill girl who is leaving the country in several hours not be ill and stay here for 2 more weeks?

LESSON 3: This only took about 3 weeks and I am already starting to feel a lot more confident and secure. There are still holes, sure, but I am so excited about what this is going to do for my whole life in like a year!!

LESSON 4: Had my 1st date from a daygame 2 minute number close! Got my second tomorrow. This does work!!

LESSON 5: I am getting to a point where I really don't care aboout flakes, purely from going out lots! And even better I still really like all the ones that go well and get that emotional buzz from it that I was worried I might lose from doing this! Its like the bad emotions are going, but the good ones are staying! Only time will tell if this is to continue!!

LESSON 6: A lot of people are into this now! I found it worrying that Estonian had 3 other guys approach in similar ways. However, with a bit of hardwork we can smash the competition. Go out there and do it! Lets make this forum the best in the country!!



It is now Thurs 14 Oct. I have stopped 5 a day officially as I failed. However, I will start again in November. I did get a random e-mail close on Tuesday and will keep you abreast of any developments until then still, but my going out will be limited due to other commitments.

Update on girls....

(99) Meeting tomorrow night.

(75) May see her this weekend. Didn't call her for over a week, as I was so busy with my 5 a day. She seems into me, but I am worried she is not fit enough.

(44) have been texting, but not much else. Said I might come to the thing on Wednesday that we met at and didn't show (no way I'm meeting on her turf again). In my head she is now all wanting me because I stood her up, but in reality I think I care a lot more than her! May call over the weekend apologise for not showing and say I will make it up to her.

(19) (71) (29) Flirty chat - not in country!!

(9) May see her this weekend if she picks up. Think she is pissed off, as I kind of stopped speaking with her after I met (19).

(103) Friends on FB! Not replied to message yet!

Will probably to an offical anlalysis of the first 100 just because I get off on that sort of thing and will be good to compare with my 2nd hundred!

Thanks for reading!

Drum 14-10-2010 09:09 PM

wow!! good work Snake Eyes...I'm defo going to try this.

Maxemillion 14-10-2010 11:27 PM

liked this report Snake Eyes. if anything, it proves that pickup is necessary to counteract all the stupid stuff that can get in the way of even an initially really successful chance with a girl. (such as her being ill and leaving). imagine that was one of only a few girls you ever tried to date, random events just get in the way and thats it, no girl.

Phil 15-10-2010 10:26 AM

if you have heard of the RULE OF 6 then u will have pretty much hit on every girls friend in ur city

Snake Eyes 18-10-2010 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 28456)
if you have heard of the RULE OF 6 then u will have pretty much hit on every girls friend in ur city

Do you mean the whole degree of separation thing? Haha yeah, soon it will just be 2 degrees: Girl 1 - Snake Eyes tried to pull you - Girl 2

Good reason why using canned openers are bad! Bound to hit on 2 girls that know each other sooner or later doing this!

Lucky I live in London, so there is a never ending supply......

SmileyK 19-10-2010 06:05 PM

Good work SE - if there was ever a thread to point newbies to about practice and persistence this would be one of them :)

Phil 19-10-2010 07:13 PM

one thing i will ask... and granted i dont usually ask for advice BUT

im gonna have a blast at this soon so... when a girl is wearing headphones... are u just approachin an telling them to stop listening to music coz at the min i would not bother if

on phone
listening to music

?? curious

Snake Eyes 19-10-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmileyK (Post 28544)
Good work SE - if there was ever a thread to point newbies to about practice and persistence this would be one of them :)

Thanks, your spot on!

If I ever hear anyone whining about AA once I've finished this I think I'll slap them with a wet fish!

Do this challenge and then come back whining! If you are scared of making a fool out of yourself in front of your friends go do it on your own. If you're scared of being on your own, go get some wings! Whatever you need to do to make it work, do it!

My feeling is that everyone can get what they want if they have persistence and are willing to keep pushing themselves out of their comfort zone. Is a real pet peeve of mine if people don't even try and then whine about their crappy lives!

Snake Eyes 19-10-2010 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 28548)
one thing i will ask... and granted i dont usually ask for advice BUT

im gonna have a blast at this soon so... when a girl is wearing headphones... are u just approachin an telling them to stop listening to music coz at the min i would not bother if

on phone
listening to music

?? curious

Even the best have to ask for advice sometimes Phil haha

I can only remember doing this once, I just signalled to her to take her ear phones out and then started chatting. Nice chat, we danced in the street, but she said she had a BF.

Once I finish this race and start my challenge again (assuming my dick doesn't fall off from all this running around in the cold!!) I expect ear phones not to be a problem, esp if you go direct.

Mobile phones I view as a bit much. If someone tried to stop me when I was on the phone I'd tell them to do one! My opinion on this could change though...

You should definitely try this out. Make sure you've got a clear few weeks if your going to do it properly though.

Phil 19-10-2010 11:45 PM

so ok... how are you opening these... is it just Hi Im ..... whats your name..???

whats the response in general... how many r u closing etc...??

nova 20-10-2010 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 28565)
so ok... how are you opening these... is it just Hi Im ..... whats your name..???

whats the response in general... how many r u closing etc...??

Read his field reports.

Phil 20-10-2010 09:26 PM

im gonna get stuck into readin this tomorow...

im defo playin this game :)

sapphire 21-10-2010 09:04 AM

state ...
 
Snake Eyes ...

Props to you for getting out there, and for such detailed reports.

Does strike me though that you are very dependent on this thing called "state".

Firstly everyone goes through periods when they feel sociable and times when they dont. Personally I don't feel the need to beat up on myself because the last time I went to tescos I really just wanted to buy a few things, mind my own business and get out rather than open half the female shoppers.

Imagine that you don't open a set for week, but you find yourself opening the super hot girl behind you in the checkout queue without hesitation, without having "worm up on a few sets first", without thinking that you have to in order to meet some self imposed quota, without needing to listen to loud music, shout "yeah, Im the shit" really loudly, click your finger or use some NLP or other artificial bullshit to get into this thing called "state".

Imagine instead that you just did it because you are a cool spontaneous confident guy :smokin:

I strongly suggest checking out Tyler Durdans blueprint course since he covers this area very well indeed.

(s)

Snake Eyes 24-10-2010 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 28565)
so ok... how are you opening these... is it just Hi Im ..... whats your name..???

whats the response in general... how many r u closing etc...??

Planning on doing an overview of my first 100 approaches later this week. Should give you a good idea what has been working and what hasn't for me.

Snake Eyes 24-10-2010 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sapphire (Post 28627)
Snake Eyes ...

Props to you for getting out there, and for such detailed reports.

Does strike me though that you are very dependent on this thing called "state".

Firstly everyone goes through periods when they feel sociable and times when they dont. Personally I don't feel the need to beat up on myself because the last time I went to tescos I really just wanted to buy a few things, mind my own business and get out rather than open half the female shoppers.

Imagine that you don't open a set for week, but you find yourself opening the super hot girl behind you in the checkout queue without hesitation, without having "worm up on a few sets first", without thinking that you have to in order to meet some self imposed quota, without needing to listen to loud music, shout "yeah, Im the shit" really loudly, click your finger or use some NLP or other artificial bullshit to get into this thing called "state".

Imagine instead that you just did it because you are a cool spontaneous confident guy :smokin:

I strongly suggest checking out Tyler Durdans blueprint course since he covers this area very well indeed.

(s)

It was actually the Blueprint and other RSD products that got me started on this challenge. It was something Tyler did very early on. All the RSD stuff is fantastic!

I appreciate that one of RSD's main message is to overcome the need for all the artificial bullshit of the PUA world and develop core confidence within yourself. However, I need to get out there first and practise. Part of that is forcing myself to go out even when I don't want to.

Yes there are some times when we don't feel sociable, but there are also times when this just won't do e.g. approaching a hot girl, a date, a job interview, and important meeting, a Birthday party, a wedding, any time where you are in a social environment with new people. I want to be in a position where I can be sociable if it is necessary.

I am very dependant on state still. You are right about this and it does bother me that sometimes I can feel like the most amazing charismatic man there is who everybody adores and is awe of and other times I feel like a shy nervous chump who has to think about what he is saying and is bothered by what people think of him (I call this feeling as trapped in 'social chains').

However, to be honest I'm not bothered if people think bad of me, so long as they've actually met 'me' and not some watered down version. Its more when they think I'm someone I'm not because I feel I can't act myself around them that is annoying and that is probably the main reason why I joined this forum in the first place (in my view this is the main reason that holds me back with women too).

Going out every day for 30 days and approaching 5 women is my first stepping stone towards becoming this 'cool spontaneous guy' all the time (or at least have a lot more control over it - at the moment it controls me to an extent). I don't expect to be doing this forever, I just want to kill off any insecurities that are still there that sometimes stop me from been the person I naturally am. It was definitely starting to work and I expect to get amazing results when I start again properly on 1 November.

There is also a reason I have picked 30 days. I heard somewhere that doing something straight for 30 days is the time it takes to enforce a habit within your mind. I am testing that theory. I am hoping after these 30 days my constant need for state will have decreased.

I'd be interested to know what have learned form the Blueprint and how it has helped you?

Snake Eyes 24-10-2010 11:05 PM

Friday 15 Oct

No approaches, as I am on a break for a bit (see previous post).

Went on a date with Polski (99). Just went for a couple of drinks. We went 50:50 on purchasing. Unfortunately she had to be up for work the next day, so she couldn't stay out late. Logistics made it hard to kiss her (table in the way) of us. After drinks took her to see Tower Bridge. Thought it would be good to go for a kiss close there. We got there. I thought about it and then it suddenly dawned on me that my teeth were chattering, I was freezing and this a really really unsexy situation! Thought again at tube, but just didn't feel it.

She sent me this text later on that night "I've just came:) was nice to meet u Snake Eyes! Good night....x" . Either this was just poor English or a very cruel text telling me she had just been fucking someone else haha!!

Sat 16 Oct - Tues 19 Oct

No approaches! I did run over 30 miles which I was quite pleased about!!

Wednesday 20 October

Westfield shopping centre. Targets were not good! Only fitties were hired guns!

108) Shop Girl. Asked if she got reception in here. Meeting my friend etc and can't get through rolled into story about my friend I was meeting. She seemed too young so I ejected.

109) Soap girl on a break. Phone opener. Fit, was going ok, but then she tried to sell me soap. Was nice getting her to rub lotion on my hands I suppose. I told her I wasn't going to buy her soap, teased her more and then left to meet my wing.

110) Random walking girl: Wedding present opener. She was married, but we had a fun flirty chat.

111) Mum and daughter. Directional/wedding present opener combined. Felt weird her Mum was there, so left.

112) Another stall girl. Asked about area (was meeting Polski soon and wanted to know what it was like). She was really cold with me and eventually told me to ask someone else. Made my blood boil! Was very angry she was so rude. Does she not know how much work I'm putting into this haha.

113) Stall girl just hi I think. Went well, was the only approach of the night that I felt hook, just not fit enough!

114) Massage Girls hi. Fun but nothing! Wish we had talked to their friends - they were much fitter!

I then met with Polski. We had another 'nice' date. She is a vet which I find interesting, but she is a bit too goody two shoes I fear.

Again no kiss close! WTF Snake Eyes!! Again table logistics fucked us! After we left I did at least try this time, but she told me to wait until Saturday (I am going to her B'Day). I do want to see this girl naked as I reakon she has a sexy toned body under there, but it could be a lot of work for crap sex. She dresses bad too!

Thursday 21 October

No approaches. Ran 10 miles and listened to Motley Crue. I just finished there biography 'The Dirt' by our old friend Neil Strauss. Fucking awesome book! Also quite good for mind set. I feel a bit like a rock start right now haha!

Friday 22 October and Saturday 23 October

These sort of roll into 1 as I didn't go to sleep

Met some wings, got AA for a bit (this is what happens when you don't go out!), then we went to Camden!

115) Bar. Directional. Was going ok. She said she works in television and I said, 'cool do you work at Currys or something then?'. Worked a treat, she was hitting me and stuff, but then a guy she was with said 'nice line'. Shouldn't of freaked me out, but it did. I became paranoid he knew what I was up to. In the end her friend dragged her aware, despite enjoying herself.

LESSON LEARNT: Engage and disarm the obstacles!! I should have chatted to the whole group more so they liked me and I wasn't another strange man trying to hit on their hot friend!

My wing asked if I wanted a drink. I said yes. Opps........

116) We went to Proud gallery in Camden. First set was some Spanish birds. 'Spanish' was my opener! Good chat, they went for a cigarette and never saw them again.

117) Girl approached me. She said I looked like someone she knew. Engaged the group. Chatted to her friend who I quite liked. Went ok, should have looked for her later!

More drink

118) 3 girls. Said something I can't remember. They liked me, but I think my wing may have messed up using routines/quizzes on them. Doesn't see to work too well in club type environment. They weren't that hot though, so think he did me a favor.

119) Getting kind of hazy now! Outside fat girl and her little fit sister. Went ok, but didn't hook (the cute one).

120) Some one else outside. She seemed to like me, but I was pissed and not finding her that fit which is always a bad sign, so I took some cigarettes off her and then ejected!

Drunker!

121) Hot German girl. Lost her. Grrrr!

122) Some girl near dance floor! She asked how our 'mingling' was going! Oh oh she knows what we're doing!

123) Frosty Turks! The only girls who were cold to me all evening! I was opening good, just not hooking anyone really! Is difficult in a club environment when your full of beer I guess!

Drunkest!!

124) Some Swedish girl. Remember she was fit, but I was in drunken butterfly mode now and flew off some where else!

125) Some ugos. They were amused by me.

Whilst all this was going on I had been texting a girl I slept with a few months back who recently returned to London (she has been travelling the world). I have been talking to her off and on for the last couple of weeks and knew she was keen to meet. I called her and went to Old Street to meet her....

126) Bus stop talked to 2 girls, as well as a lot of others on the bus. We were debating what was better - Friday or Saturday nights. Could be a good opener, people seem to like talking about it.

Met travelling girl, who was with 2 friends. We went back to her friends house and the bingeing continued! Bring out the cocaine!! Shouldn't really have been doing this a week before a very important race, but it was fun! At 8 in the morning we eventually went to bed (or sofa for us), but she wouldn't fuck me due to logistics (thought someone would come in - which was a fair point given we were in the living room of a 4 person house). I booked a taxi back to ours and in our drugged up state we were off to Snake Eyes Ville!

We got back to mine, but she continued to LMR me! It took 3 days to fuck her last time, but I didn't think she would be like this again. Eventually after lots of resistance she asks if she could have a shower! Sure...

She went into the ensuite and I sat there wondering if she wanted me to join her or not. Luckily coke means these thoughts don't last very long and I decided she did, so I went in there and barged in the shower, pressed her against the wall and started fingering and fucking her. I must admit I love showering with girls! Reminds me of Thailand (that holiday would be a thread in its on own right though!!)

We crash out of the shower, not even bothering to dry ourselves and I throw her on the bed and enter her again. Eventually realise I should have a condom on (opps). The worst thing is the only reason I suggested a condom was because I felt I was going to cum too quick and didn't want to (it worked though)! Does worry me how my brain works when I'm fucked! We banged away for a long time and once again later after an hours kip.

I did two things here that are quite knew to me. I was quite rough with her through out as I remembered she liked that and I spent quite a bit of time choking her whilst I was still inside her (missionary - I go back to my knees and put my hands around her throat - a sexual move I now call the 'choke 'n' poke'). I'm still undecided if I like this or not. She went mental (in a good way) when I did it. I definitely found it dominant which is good, but it was also kind of weird. I also slapped her round the face at one point ('slap 'n' tap'??), which she didn't seem to like as much (hmm that doesn't actually sound too good, I'm not a woman beater or anything!! - it wasn't very hard for the record and it was in context!). I've had friends who have had really rough sex before and loved it! One friend of mine used to date a girl who used to thrive on been whacked around the face quite hard when he was fucking her. This may be quite personal, but what are people's experience of this? It could obviously go very wrong if you went to far!! I guess you need safety words or something?!

Also how do you guys go about asking for anal sex with a 1 night stand?

Whilst we're on the subject - how are you guys on dirty talk? I am crap and don't really know what to say except - 'do you like it?' 'Your wet aren't you?' 'Harder?' 'Yeah you like that don't you' 'it feels good inside you' amongst other things that aren't really that great!

I never made it to Polskis unfortunately as I had no money and only had about 1 hours sleep after all of the above. I hope this hasn't fucked things up for me there. Maybe it has actually helped, hmmm - will know soon enough I guess.

Sun 24 October

I ran 14 miles. No approaches

Snake Eyes 24-10-2010 11:17 PM

Analysis of first 100 approaches

Ok this probably isn't a good idea entirely as it means I am becoming very results orientated (it could also be verging on a bit obsessive and weird too haha, but fuck it I like this sort of stuff!). However, I was interested to see what was working and what wasn't, so as long as I don't get hung up on the results I think it could be a good learning experiencing. Ok, so this is an overview of my first 100 approaches.....


Openers

'Hello or variation of'

9, 19, 29, 44, 26, 85, 45, 13, 16, 17, 32, 33, 46, 47, 48. 49, 50, 51, 52 , 53, 54, 57, 59, 87, 91, 92, 93

Observational/Situational

2, 4, 5, 6, 7,8, 12, 14, 28, 58, 12, 71, 75, 90, 18, 23, 25, 30, 31, 37, 38, 39, 41, 43, 55, 56, 63, 67, 69, 77, 78, 79, 86, 88, 94, 95, 100, 10, 71

Direct

3, 15, 36, 99, 22, 64, 65, 68, 76, 83

Directional

1, 11, 21, 34, 35, 62, 66, 68, 80, 81, 82, 89

Other 'Canned/pre-planned'

60, 96, 98, 24, 37, 40, 42, 61

?

20, 27, 70, 72, 73, 74, 84, 97


Successful Openers

'Hello or variation of' 26% (success rate) (would be a lot higher if not for silly singles night eww!)

9, 19, 29, 44, 26, 85, 45

Observational/Situational 15%

28, 58, 12, 71, 75, 90

Direct 30%

99, 22, 64

Directions 8% (and was only a flake!)

11

LESSONS LEARNT

Directions is lame and shit. Canned stuff is not brilliant either!

Observational and hello openers are far better as they are natural and I feel more myself. However, it is not always possible to do these! Observational/situational - you need to think of something on the spot. Sometimes my mind goes blank! Hello openers work good in bars or some sort of social event, but a girl on the street?? Not tried it yet! Maybe I should. Just feels a bit weird too right now! I better have a damn good follow up if I do this!

Direct - scary shit, but almost always seem to get a good response even if I don't close! Good for 1 girl on the street. Not tried it on a group yet. A bit scared by this, as I feel I will be laughed at by the friends. Hopefully this will change soon!

I think when I start my Version 2 of this I will try to keep it as situational/hello/direct, with maybe 1 or 2 emergency canned openers if I freeze or go blank in a situation (just so I don't wuss out as I have nothing to say). Directions has got to stop!


Number Closes 17%

Flake Rate 5/13 = 38% (doesn't include 'never called')

Non-flakes: 9, 12, 19, 29, 44, 71, 75, 99 8%

9 and 19 speak for themselves (see below)

12 amazingly not a flake, but fucked up on phone game

29 good close, not in country right now. Ongoing, but looking at her FB photos thinking maybe not fit enough.

44 Ongoing, messed up a bit last time I saw her!

71 Thought weak close, but later proved wrong! Logistics/external factors fucked me and now she has left country! Ongoing though I guess.

75 Good close. Have been too busy to meet (unsure if she is fit enough too which is never a good sign!)

99 Ongoing

Never Called: 26, 85, 90 3%

26 and 90 Not fit enough, so decided against it

85 Left the country so never bothered

Flakes: 11, 22, 45, 64, 28 5%


LESSONS LEARNT

Considering that a lot of my interactions are based upon 5 minute interactions, I'm quite pleased with this. There was a time I was very worried about flakes, but I'm viewing this as less of a problem now.

Also, its starting to get confusing, all these different numbers on my phone, I'm even starting to forget who is who and sometimes I will need to go through my messages to jog my memory. The main thing this has taught me is there really are an infinite amount of girls out there (not literally, but it may as well be given the population size) and it doesn't matter if you fuck up a few!

I've found the best way to ask for a number is 'Hey what's the best way to contact you.....'. I can't think of a time this hasn't worked.


Kiss Closes 5%

9, 19, 28, 29, 58

9 and 19 speak for themselves (see below)

28 and 29 were good kiss closes. I was raging! However, 28 flaked in the end and 29 lives in Mexico!

58 was silly really

LESSONS LEARNT:

You can kiss close within minutes when you are on form!

Kino, kino, kino kiss!! (but not Rapey the Clown - make sure you remain socially aware!!)

Awkward silences and eye contact can help (see previous field report 'Snake Eyes in Poland')


Fuck Closes 2%

9, 19

Already knew or had a link, so had major social proof!

Number 9 had viewed my flat and I had 'rejected' her as a flat mate, so she had something to prove.

Number 19 was a friend of a friend of a friend.

Some numbers may turn to fucks, but as of press time they have not!!

LESSONS LEARNT

Slightly disheartened by my fuck rate. At the moment only 1 in 50 girls will sleep with me (ruins my belief that the world wants to fuck me haha). Actually this isn't strctly true, as I have ejected out of situations early because I decide I don't fancy them more times than the other way round so is probably not that bad!

Social proof is king!

Don't ask them to yours just get in a taxi

Girls need an excuse to sleep with you so they don't feel like sluts. Give them that excuse!

LMR - just agree and keep going until they break. Once you have a finger or tongue in - relax they're yours!

Girls like to be clean. Let them shower first haha! (See end bit of last post above this one)


Right that is it for now! I am having a week off to train for my race and then I will be back with a vengence! 5 a day version 2 will be a far slicker and successful operation! I will be ready for it this time. I am going to ensure I get lots of sleep, exercise and eat healthy so I don't run out of steam this time. I will lay off the drugs, cigarettes and alcohol as well.

If anyone is around in London in November, PM me! I will be out EVERY DAY!!

Much love

Snake Eyes

Wake 26-10-2010 11:28 AM

This is my favourite thread man, fuckin awesome stuff.

I haven’t made any real approaches for few months now, been taking the easy route and seeing girls I know I can have as appose to those that I might find challenging, but after reading these long ass posts of yours, I feel inspired.

Ive read a lot of what I believe to be shit on this forum but for the first time I actually believe everything being reported and its sick mate. Fucking love it.

Snake Eyes 26-10-2010 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wake (Post 28850)
This is my favourite thread man, fuckin awesome stuff.

I haven’t made any real approaches for few months now, been taking the easy route and seeing girls I know I can have as appose to those that I might find challenging, but after reading these long ass posts of yours, I feel inspired.

Ive read a lot of what I believe to be shit on this forum but for the first time I actually believe everything being reported and its sick mate. Fucking love it.

Thanks Wake! I appreciate your comments.

Every word is the truth - good or bad and to the last disgusting detail haha!!

Initially I was a little dubious about writing some stuff, but knew that if I didn't document everything I would just tell people the good stuff to massage my own ego - which wouldn't have helped anyone (especially me)!!!

Phil 26-10-2010 08:33 PM

just out of interest what do u mean by DIRECT??? is that just ... thought u looked nice and wanted to say hello?? or??

Phil 26-10-2010 08:38 PM

oh and by the way mate... this is without doubt the most helpfull thread on the forum WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION ur a legend an i wanna buy u a bevy

Darood 26-10-2010 09:22 PM

This is fucking great.

This is one of the best threads on the site in my opinion.

Well done mate, I admire your balls.

Snake Eyes 26-10-2010 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 28866)
just out of interest what do u mean by DIRECT??? is that just ... thought u looked nice and wanted to say hello?? or??

Usually I just say 'Hey this is going to sound kinda of random, but I thought you looked cute and wanted to say hi'

Have also told girls I like their smile or something they're wearing.

The standard direct opener usually gets a good response and at least a few minutes chat if not a number close.

Still quite new to me and needs work, but definitely think its the way forward (for street game at least).

Funny thing I noticed from 2 girls I used it on. They didn't quite understand (due to language barriers), but they still stopped and chatted to me and I number closed both. Other openers I have had similar language barriers and they just shrug and walk off. I think this is because my body language is a lot more 'stop and chat to my now' when you do direct, plus the energy level is higher and sexier due to the buzz you get from it. They can tell even if they don't understand you properly!

Phil 27-10-2010 08:45 AM

well im gonna be havin a go of this soon. im pretty fuckin SHIT HOT at escalating kino and conversation, so if u need help there, rapport building u can come meet me some time ill give u the ins & outs of it EASYYYYYYYYYYy. the issue ive always had is i find direct the easiest approach, i just dont like the idea of lettin a girl know i like her that quickly, so i stoped doin it years ago. now im alot more fluent tho maybe i should give it another go


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