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Black_Lightning · 10-06-2010, 03:45 PM

Good point nova I agree with you, its why i stopped online dating

Also from my experience that after all the comfort building when you meet her for the first time its like starting afresh

it just isnt worth it pickup up women this way

but what i meant by working hard for a girl is fclosing her on the same night

Flame14 · 10-06-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

1. Stop using the internet to get pussy (use the search function for the history of this discussion).
2. I would hope that guys who are into PU would be more open-minded about girls with relaxed attitudes towards sex than what I am reading in this thread.

Peace,

kowalski

Sorry, what did I say that wasn't open minded, that girl is now a friend of mine after all?

Don't see what's wrong with using the internet when I'm on line a lot anyway, it's just an effective use of time.

Mood often doesn't come off well on the internet so

to show I'm easygoing

Flame14 · **Fwb -** 10-06-2010, 11:41 PM

The first letter in FWB stands for friends and I meant it.

I'm 100% authentic

Black_Lightning · 11-06-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

I've hooked up with many girls on the first night who I've ended up seeing for extended periods of time. So have many of my friends, some of whom are now marrried to those girls.

In fact I ended up seeing, for nearly a year, a girl who I had a 3some with within an hour of meeting her. We only stopped seeing each other because she was mad in love with me and I wanted to keep it casual.

So that about wraps it up for that.

As much as anyone can tell across an internet forum, you seem like a decent sort of guy (I'm mostly basing that on the friendly, inclusive vibe that is driving you to gather together all the Leeds locals into a group and the warm invite you made to me to hang when I'm next out your way). It's just that all your advice is lifted straight out of Mystery's and Style's arses. You say "Style himself" like that is supposed to mean something special.

I know you are new to all this so all of that is totally understandable.

However, the most important thing you must do when opening yourself to PU materials is keep your critical faculty switched on at all times. Compare everything you read or hear to your own life experience to see if it tallies (this is obviously easier and more valuable if you have a lot of experience before coming into this). When you read a scientific sounding theory, do some research and find out if there is any truth behind it (Maslow's hierarchy, the AA and cavemen with rocks theory and the 93% of communication is non-verbal thng are all nonsense. No academic in the relevant fields takes them seriously. Research them and you'll see).

Don't raise any of these self-proclaimed 'gurus' to the status of an authority. Question everything and you will find the scraps of gold in the mountains of gravel.

Remember "It is good to have an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out".

Not what you said.

That's debatable and it's already been debated ... at length. If you are interested in forum members opinions, do a search.

Nice smile. You're a happy flame.

Peace,

kowalski

Well first off thanks kowalski, but you should know I am a very skeptical person. I dont take what Style and Mystery say as law, but so far its safe to say they had better luck with women than I did. So obv they are doing something right.

And if their methods are not extremly effective then they wouldnt be so popular, nor would the pua community be so big.

Wow apparently from what your saying you have internalised the game a good amount (threesome in an hour after meeting is extremely impressive) however till I reach those heights I will have to continue working on my game and fine tuning it.

So I suppose on your point that girls you sleep with on the first night you are as fond of as women you had to chase is a point we have to agree to disagree with because like i said its human nature, if you work hard for something you value it more.

Maybe you have a different experience with that situation that led you to believe differently and that's fair enough. However from what I have seen and experienced and from what my friends have. (Not to mention what you read and see) men value a woman more when they have to work for her. Thats why the more you get into the game the more pua's will view women as sets to be opened.

I dont think we will ever agree on that point to be honest because not only am I a firm believer on that point but I have the evidence to prove it.

nova · 11-06-2010, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Lightning

And if their (Style and Mystery's) methods are not extremly effective then they wouldnt be so popular, nor would the pua community be so big.

Style & Mystery offer the everyday man the quick fix - i.e. say a few lines thast worked for one person and if you say it right bed the girl - for my money this is why it is so huge.

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Originally Posted by Black_Lightning

So I suppose on your point that girls you sleep with on the first night you are as fond of as women you had to chase is a point we have to agree to disagree with because like i said its human nature, if you work hard for something you value it more.

Up to a point you will lust and see as higher value what you can't have. Say you work hard to bed a girl, it takes say 2 months to reach that stage, does this dynamic not change at that point? When you finally bed her you think afterwards you are still going to see her with the high value you placed on her? Being fond of a girl in the long run is much more than getting what you think you can't have, especially once you get to know them and like / love them for many other better reasons than bedding them.

Black_Lightning · 11-06-2010, 09:22 AM

Nova

I couldn't agree more

Mycroft · 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Lightning

if you work hard for something you value it more.

May be true, but I do not consider having sex with a girl as getting her, as if that was the goal of the interaction.(ok sometimes it is)

I'd give up ten one nighters for a few dates with a girl that I connect with.

If she's the kind of girl I want a ltr with before sex, it will be the same after sex.

Mycroft · 11-06-2010, 10:15 AM

Hadn't realised Maslows theory was no longer accepted. They're still teaching it.

Black_Lightning · 11-06-2010, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Mycroft

May be true, but I do not consider having sex with a girl as getting her, as if that was the goal of the interaction.(ok sometimes it is)

I'd give up ten one nighters for a few dates with a girl that I connect with.

If she's the kind of girl I want a ltr with before sex, it will be the same after sex.

Thats exactly how i feel. Personally I dont like one night stands because i dont find them very fulfilling. FBs are far more satisfying in my eyes.

I would go one more matelol id give up 50 one night stands for one LTR with a girl I trully connect with

I was going to say 100 but cmon lets be honest thats just a lie, I wouldnt trade 100 one night stands for anything :P

We should have like a massive night out with everyone when one of us reaches 100 lol

u2kickass · 13-06-2010, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame14

Went out for drinks in Leeds with a cuteish girl I met online. (Not sure how to to do the 1-10 scale and don't much care, I would like to bang her is the main thing)

Hadn't done much internet chat beforehand just a little banter before setting up a meet and #closing online.

Used decent text game to build attraction.

Met her tonight, she wasn't as into Kino as some but not much resistance either. She said she has issues with touching guys she doesn't know too well.

She could tell I was a bit of a player (which is a DHV surely), but this didn't stop me having a nice K Close on the train.

She had to be up early so I didn't try hard for the bang.

I might see her again and F Close or I might attempt to use her as a pivot/wingwoman in future. I'm new to Yorkshire so we'll see.

At the moment, I have an FWB, a previous K Close on back burner and a pretty redhead #close where I'm trying to set up a meet. I think this helps having an abundance or "next" mentality with these girls but dealing with more than four would fry my brain right now.

Hey Flame14

Online game is really effective for meets its really is quite easy bit similar that dont watch tv at all its full junk besides footy. And find bit online chat get n-close move to meet and f-close same night as meet its not hard always go for it on the night and most them know before hand its going happen anyway because banter and interactions building up to it.

Dealing with few gals at same time is headache though.Tend to go for gals different area's than local and usually weekends meets depending on that. Its not only way but its very effective....to have along side going out etc then why stop if it works hey!

Cheers