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Default 08-06-2014, 08:58 AM

Saturday 7th

Woke up and did a 5k run and felt great. Those seconds after you stop running and your head feels fuzzy - amazing. Probably what sex is like, I've forgotten


I've been learning a lot about myself recently, yesterday with no exception.

Up until this point I have been ashamed of myself when it comes to women. No girls friends and the only sex was either in Thailand (does not count)
or an American girl I met online a couple of years ago. Lots of dates.

I got into 'game' in 2011 however I've never been as driven as this year, moving to London, getting a new job. Things in my life feel differently.

2 or 3 weeks ago I stopped watching porn. Specifically sex cam sites. With these sites you webcam with the hottest girls imaginable.
Porn, sex sites, hookers are not a 'bad' thing in general, however for me the relationship was toxic. It sucked all my desire to meet and have sex with women in real life.


A while back Stein posted on here and said something which stuck in my mind. It was his comparison of day-game vs night-game.

Something like this (I don't remember exactly)

Night game
Meet girl > Take them home and have sex

Day game
Meet girl > Get number > go on date > take girl home have sex.

At the time I was like 'ah yes that seems to make sense'

It's my belief a woman will not let you take her home and have sex with her unless she thinks you're attracted to her and she is attracted to you. Simples

Guys who are good at night game, assume they are attractive. This allows them to escalate. I do not assume attraction and therefore do not escalate.
This is my sticking point.

Up until this year I don't think I have ever walked up to a woman sober and told her she was attractive, outside of a bar.
I've been going out talking to women in the streets / in my lunch hour and it's given me a new perspective.


A couple of weekends ago I met a Brazilian girl, doing this and I had one of the funnest days of my life. Okay we didn't sex but she was beautiful & funny.
That was the first girl I spoke to that day.

Yesterday I spoke to maybe 4 or 5 women, sober. I now have a date with a beautiful Italian lady. The great thing is I know, she knows I think she's attractive, because I told her!
So hopefully I can escalate things quickly on our date.


Later that evening I spoke to loads of girls (in a bar / drinking). I spoke to a hot 21 year old and a hot 19 year old girl. I felt attracted to both and could have made a move however I was too inexperienced and scared too.

So for the time being my plan is to meet girls in everyday life (sober) and hit on them in a direct way. I still enjoy talking to women in bars so will keep doing that and just have fun with it.


Mark


Realise deeply the present moment is all you ever have. Make the Now the primary focus of your life. Eckhart Tolle

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Default 08-06-2014, 10:12 AM

Well done man. I've enjoyed watching you progress. One thing I'd like to say here is you showed a LOT of courage approaching that lovely Italian girl. I could feel your fear. There was time for the AA to build up and you could easily have just walked on but you went back and did it and got the reward. He who dares wins. I know it was big moment and it was great to share that experience.

You're going in the right direction.


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Default 08-06-2014, 10:30 AM

Loads of positive realisations and behavioural changes, that's some good shit fella


"Civilise the mind, make savage the body"
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Default 08-06-2014, 10:32 AM

That's a great post mark.
I think my sticking point is exactly the same.
Two weeks running I've had half hour chats with women and my wing has assumed I closed but something stopped me escalating.
You've also inspired me to start having a go in the day, starting today.
I ditched porn a long time ago, great move.
Also just ditched all PUA material.
Keep it going.
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Default 08-06-2014, 11:16 AM

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Also just ditched all PUA material.
Best move I made!


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Default 22-06-2014, 10:41 PM

Quick round-up.

Since the last update I've had a cold, which has rather killed some of the momentum I was gaining.

The Italian girl. I met her with my snoty nose for our first date. It was okay, she cold read me, it was the highlight:

Laura:
In Italian accent - Mark-o, you like the beautiful things in life-o.

Mark:
<Hand on Laura's arm> That's why I like you (Tee hee - I'm so smooth).

She's had to go back to Italy for a couple of weeks - so she's on hold for the time being.

Last weekend I was in Barcelona - doing holiday tings with my cold innit.

This Saturday I was at Royal Ascot with my brother. Was funny, spoke to lots of women and lost lots of money on the horses. Slowly getting over my limiting belief I have that I cannot hit on younger women.

Highlight:
Brother gets number of nice girl and it spurs me on.

I see two young girls looking amazing in their dresses and start to stalk, checking out their asses. I am at this point going in my head and did not want to approach from behind. I see some guys to the right checking them out then one makes a move, with the classic 'can you take a photo of me with my mates'.

After his attempt fizzles out I think now or never. Ego driven - I'll show them how it's done or desire for her ass, I hope the latter.

I walk around and say something like hello.... I saw you over there and thought you were really attractive and wanted to say hi.
Her reaction reminded me of this clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCOm4osfWn8 42 seconds in. It was so funny, I said to her friend 'is she always like this'
She was smoking hot - got her number and she was probably 21. She doesn't live in London but she might be here in a week or two so I'll try and follow that up.


This week I'll get back into my routine of the gym and next weekend dedicate one day to cycling and maybe a day of day game.

Mark


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Default 30-06-2014, 07:39 PM

Round-up of existing girl situation.

Laura had to go back to Italy and should be back in a couple of weeks. We're keeping in touch.
Katie - flaked - after pushing my luck I got a reply back saying 'we had only chatted for 5 minutes' I should have tried more on the day.


Finding a balance

I'm struggling to find the right balance of doing normal social things and push myself to try new behaviours.


Saturday:
I had arranged to go out and try some 'day game' in the afternoon (To try new behaviours)
In the morning I went out to get my hair cut got chatting to the hairdresser about smoking weed (FYI - not done it for 15 years) and being paranoid and other random conversations.
Next went to a shop to get some shoes. The shop assistant went to get my shoes and as she knelt down to open the shoe boxers I
noticed her blouse was half undone and I could see her bra. I did flirt with her a little bit and I felt myself getting quite horny.
She was Italian and had a nice tongue stud. I decided I wanted to ask her out (I thought if I walk out of here without trying I'll regret it).
When I was at the counter I managed to focus fully and:

I said
'Do you have a boyfriend in England'

She said'
'Yes..." - don't remember exactly what she said but it was something like they aren't getting on to well or something.

I said (Heart pounding)
'Do you want to go for coffee with me'

(She seemed a bit taken aback, but then the penny dropped)
her:
'Do you have Facebook?'

Me (lost my cool by now)
'Yes'

She then wrote her name down on the receipt

I later messaged her on FB, she was polite but said she had a boyfriend. I tried to push my luck a bit but she wasn't having any of it.

In the afternoon went out but didn't really do anything.

No regrets - I've seen women I like in shops before and that was the first time in my life I've tried to do make something happen. Maybe next time try chatting to shoppers not just the assistants (who are going to be friendly...)

Sunday
Went out and did 'day game' all afternoon.
Although I did approach two women who were standing around it didn't get far.
A lot of women are walking fast / headphones on. Even if you get eye contact they're passed you in a moment.

I feel like running after girls is a bit needy but there is a paradox here as I do want the girls. I feel like I'm missing good opportunities.

If I just wait for slow walkers or girls standing I'm going to be out for hours all day.
I'm not interested in learning any 'YAD stop' bollox however I will try and run after a girl and stop her as an experiment. That is my challenge / goal.

I felt like I didn't do enough socialising this weekend and I felt worse for it.

In Summary
Feeling like I got ahead of myself with the Ascot girl and the shop assistant. Think I need to do more social stuff and mix in the new behaviours.

Bit or a rambling post - I'm not thinking too clearly today, Mondays...


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Default 30-06-2014, 08:49 PM

Round-up of existing girl situation.

I said
'Do you have a boyfriend in England'

She said'
'Yes..." - don't remember exactly what she said but it was something like they aren't getting on to well or something.

I said (Heart pounding)
'Do you want to go for coffee with me'

(She seemed a bit taken aback, but then the penny dropped)
her:
'Do you have Facebook?'

Me (lost my cool by now)
'Yes'

She then wrote her name down on the receipt

I later messaged her on FB, she was polite but said she had a boyfriend. I tried to push my luck a bit but she wasn't having any of it.

In the afternoon went out but didn't really do anything.

No regrets - I've seen women I like in shops before and that was the first time in my life I've tried to do make something happen. Maybe next time try chatting to shoppers not just the assistants (who are going to be friendly...)

Well done on going for it anyways. Better than a feeling of regret.

I feel like running after girls is a bit needy
Quote:
i feel like running after girls is a bit ballsy
but there is a paradox here as I do want the girls. I feel like I'm missing good opportunities.

If I just wait for slow walkers or girls standing I'm going to be out for hours all day.

You know the answer then

I'm not interested in learning any 'YAD stop' bollox however I will try and run after a girl and stop her as an experiment. That is my challenge / goal.

The "YAD stop bollox" is exhilarating to do, & apparently you're gunna do this "bollox" anyways, so I guess you'll find out for yourself soon enough.

That is, if you can push yourself to do it. It takes a massive set of bollox. Good luck.


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Default 30-06-2014, 10:05 PM

To elaborate on the 'bollox' part.

When I think of names that are associated with 'things' I normally think of people like winston churchill / Areyon senna, etc.

To be clear, the thought of running after a girl to stop her honest does make me feel nervous. I have no shame to admit that.

What makes me cringe is another man (I assume called Yad) has got over his fear (no cringe yet) and then staked a claim to this action.... LET THIS ACTION BELONG TO THE GREAT YAD!! (cringe)

If I do develop 'a massive set of bollox' and run after a woman and stop her, I certainly will not being thinking of Yad when I do it. It'll become the MARKUK STOP ... I'll get my coat.


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Default 30-06-2014, 11:29 PM

You're pushing out of your comfort zone which is a positive thing, not just for game but for personal growth.

I'm assuming yad himself doesn't call it a yad stop. That would be like the queen singing the national anthem.

You can stop the walkers head on. I've done this quite a bit but it's hard to do in a busy street. Also they can assume you're selling something. Chuggers and sales people do not run after people and stop them. That's why it's a good way to stop girls, she will not think your a sales person and dodge around you.


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