Sorry mate typo , it was supposed to say "I headed to the bar for Dutch courage" yeah top night to be fair! Looking forward to you being on it though!!

GoodRebel

But I would think making an emotional connection with a girl, no matter how insignificant it might seem at the time, would always give you a hook to re-open that girl at any point in the night...even at the end if they have been picked up by a chode. She might even answer your call when you phone and leave a message or text her a few days later. On the other hand, making a decision to stick with her , in case you don't find anything else that night, would seem to indicate insecurity, and that's not a good or attractive frame. So what you do is say you have to go "state reason" (get back to friends, etc.) get the number, in case you don't see her again, then move on, rinse and repeat.

I usually try to get a number when it feels right, then the "I need to get back to my friends, it was great to meet you, I will call you" etc. Suppose it's like cat and string theory though, if you hang round her all night like the smell of gas she'll get fed up of you, like a cat when the string drops!!

GoodRebel

Thursday 28th November

Headed to meet some of the Manchester lads at improv, was pretty late because I didn't finish football till 8.30. It was my 1st night at improv, it was good to be fair , I'd recommend it to anyone to at least give it a try. It was strange because after that i went over to 5th avenue in MCR with Shah and Xfactor Chris. I felt pretty comfortable straight away. Suppose it's like warming up for a football match.

I opened the 1st few sets with the "Jaffa cake opener" I stumbled across a few weeks ago, it went down well sparked a few conversations etc. About 30 mins into the night I spotted a group of 8 girls who were sat down, shah pushed me to open them (nice one shah) so I went over with the Jaffa cake opener and got a response from each of them then they started talking about it between them ... Partial success , I then found it hard to control the group as they had all starting to break off into separate conversations and the best looking girls who I really wanted to speak too were across the table sat down, which made it hard to isolate, looking back I should have spoken to the nearest girls and tried to move closer to the fit ones ... Opinions much appreciated here guys, thanks in advance. Later In the night I lost shah & Xfactor Chris and went round solo for a whole, I got myself into a 2 set got speaking to them , teasing one of them for being posh etc, teased the other one about black pudding (she was from bury) then Shah turned up ... perfect timing , this gave me chance to speak to the other one alone , chatted for a while & number closed, said "bye , great to meet you etc" then she went to walk away but turned round and said "is that the best goodbye you've got!?" So we started making out for a while, then I headed home, maybe I should have escalated then? But i had to catch the last bus home and had work the next day.

But I did meet up with her Sunday evening (1st December) for a few drinks , went pretty well! More kissing again, I will probably escalate if/when I meet her again.

Opinions & advice welcome as always guys!!

GoodRebel

Nice save. You should definitely meet her again.. Why didn't you go for the pull when you went for drinks?

Gad staff Fletch. What's your definition of escalation? I think for a number close you did it pretty smooth. You had good rapport, you kissed her, she definitely saw you as a person rather than the next stimuli in the club and you closed at the 'yeah we should both get back to our friends' rather than to eject or because you didn't know what to do/say.

I went off number closing because I was using it as a reason to eject (Even though I was getting dates off of it) but now feel it's time to start #closing again.

But yeah what do you mean by escalation? Like for an SNL?

yeah , great work by shah there, turned up just at the right time ! i felt really comfortable in the set and getting the number , but just wondering if i could have taken her home on the night.

GoodRebel

Thursday 12th / Friday 13th December

Thursday

I headed to Blackpool to see two door cinema club, few pints 1st nothing too heavy though, got in the venue found a spot in the crowd next to 2 cute girls, one with long brown hair , the other wearing a beanie hat. I opened them with the jaffa cake opener chatted for a while before the band went on then in-between songs, towards the end of the gig i grabbed the best looking ones hand and starting dancing & singing along with her, good eye contact etc, then my 2 mates started taking pictures for snap chat and i think it creeped her out. I explained "I'm bringing them out for the night , they're on day release" she giggled and it seem to ease the tension a bit until during the last song of the gig my more drunken mate decided to bite the beanie hat off the other girls head ... which to be fair was pretty funny, but it put her in a shit mood and she wanted to move, as it was the last song they stayed put, and the girl i was speaking too gave me her Facebook, we've been speaking a bit since and she comes to manchester quite a bit .... we'll see what happens.

Friday

I went to another gig Friday night , saw the Courteeners in Manchester , ended up a few rows back dead centre so naturally it was rowdy , but i don't mind that, during the last song of the night i got elbowed in the temple , which happens but made me feel shit, id already arranged to meet up with Shah , Luther & XFactor Chris after the gig so i went on to meet them still feeling a bit freaky from the elbow to the temple, and headed to a club. In there I opened lots of sets, but i wasn't feeling it with the combination of exhaustion & a banging head but i still managed a few decent conversations, especially with 1 girl shah grabbed on her way past & said to her "hey, this is goodrebel, he's a cool guy, see you guys." Funnily enough because i wasn't bothered about rejection as i felt like i had an excuse, i seemed not to get any AA which i usually get, and it carried on all night, i hope its like that from now on, i must have done nearly 50 odd approaches since going out with the guys from Manchester.

Later i was walking past the bar and spotted i girl i dated a few years ago who i know from Facebook has just split with her bf , she came over to me hugged me and started making out with me. I tried to isolate her but she kept seeing her friends , going off then coming back , looking back i shouldn't have started making out with her straight away like i did, i should have made her work for it more, pushed pulled more. like cat and string theory , kept the string dangling for longer than 2 seconds haha .... what do you think? never mind you live and learn. After i left the club i was walking to the bus stop and got speaking to a group of students who'd gotten lost , we walked in the same direction for a while and i had a really good conversation with one girl about places we've both travelled too, as we were speaking her friends were walking faster so they went off in front , when she thought shed lost them she panicked and said she's gonna have to run to catch them .... i could have , should have, normally would have gotten a number, dunno why i didn't , maybe it was the elbow to the head earlier in the night??

Observations : continue to open with confidence, but start to introduce cocky funny approach when I'm in sets & don't take the easy option .... approach hotter girls.

Opinions Welcome as always

Nice one

GoodRebel

Did you want the same night lay? If I remember correctly you have pretty much the same goal as me; to pull girls from the club and if you really cant THEN get her number.

You've got conversations and all that down, I think you just got to escalate and close. Same place where I'm at. Read into some 60years of challenge maybe. Ignore anything about AA, accept its a feeling that happens and do it anyway. Before a night out sometimes I get cocky and think "Nah I wont have AA" which hinders my nights out because you get ahead of yourself.

Yeah thats the plan , even just to escalate from conversation to building attraction, breaking touch barriers & getting numbers & closing. Its something I'm going to push towards in the next few times we're out!

GoodRebel