I am not naive! I have spoken to a friend who was an expert in astral projection having achieved it many times! By the way the article in the punk fanzine was called: "How to get out of your head without taking drugs". It was a very interesting article. I think I read it back in 1987. It explained techniques for achieving astral projection such as reaching out and trying to touch something which is just out of reach or trying to leave your body when you are in a lucid dream. The author described his experiences of it.

By the way millions of people had out of body experiences when in near death situations or during operations while in hospital. Millions of people can't all be lying or all be imagining it. The thing is when you are in hospital under anaesthetic the anaesthetic stops all brain activity so there is no way you could be just dreaming it.