Sapphire I think the problem is where we place the importance in having a conversation with a hot girl. I mean when talking to a hot girl im constantly thinking the only desirable outcome is that she likes me after and I get another chance to talk to her. But when I'm talking to a girl I don't really fancy I'm just my normal self and I don't really care about the outcome, I just wanna have an enjoyable conversation and this gets me a much better reception(Ironically I'm quite good getting girls I'm not attracted to attracted to me [see my graph ])