Originally Posted by Phil

Just grab her & kiss her for fucks sake.

she is probably tellin her mates u might be gay, just kiss her, if she doesnt kiss u then u know the answer. This is about u and being scared to do somethin.

WOMEN WANT TO BE TAKEN CONTROL OF! grab her firm, push her against the wall & kiss her END OF STORY!

this is a win win situation, but u cant ask for it, you have to just be strong & take it.

4 dates? jesus, i would expect a girl to stop wanting to see me if we didn't kiss by the end of the first date.