I agree with you on the money making scheme these guys are generating, absolutely disgusting but to totally dissing out MM, etc is just plain arrogant. Im erring to the natural way now but if it isnt for MM, routines, the game etc etc, I (and many others) would have never found this community and meet some cool, awesome dudes...!

This thread started by Jaz might be some interest to you...
Faux Natural

Much Success...!