If you're talking to 12 girls a night hoping to go somewhere with them, you're doing it wrong.

I'll repeat what's been said: This is not a standard PUA bullshit type forum. Drop the act, the 'game', the routine, the chasing... pretty much everything you said except your ambition to get better.

Knock off the shit that the other pickup guys elsewhere will tell you about going after girls. They're making attraction, seduction and sex into a job or skill set. It's not either of those. It's a natural function of your body, and by extension your mind.


I suggest you look elsewhere for your problems, rather than going straight for the kill (and essentially teaching yourself a one-trick bandaid solution that only works once in a while).

-ADHD / Anxiety / stress related to social situations?
-Excessive media /internet / porn consumption, or an inability to feel happy with other people?
-Feeling inadequate in any aspect of your life that you think relates to being attractive? (looks, fitness, money / car / nice clothes, etc.)
-History / bringing up? (Don't deserve a bird, didn't have girls growing up, feel left out of society, wierd mental problems brought on by over-protective parents, etc.)

there's other shit as well, but I suggest you begin to focus in on the underlying problem, rather than what's at the surface.



Steady your life, calm yourself down, clean your act up, be healthy, take care of yourself, all of which will build you some self respect and esteem, and girls will know. You'll be fucking golden to them from across the room.

Then talk to the first girl you want, don't act like a retard and be cool, and everything else will come naturally... and you won't have to go through this 12-girls a night bullshit.