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Default 07-03-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by daleinthedark View Post

I think 1 of the reason it works with guys who live in fear of approaching girls is because they attend this bootcamp where they are forced to be social with the other guys then girls and are forced to approach girls.

Essentially its a game of numbers, before they attend the bootcamp they have approached 0 girls
At the bootcamp they approach maybe 40 girls

even if they have a 10% success rate, thats a 400% increase on what they were getting before, however the pua "trainer" will put it down to being and awesome guru, wheareas in reality the guy may have learned a few tips on the course but the face that they have been forced to go out and make that first giant leap overcoming their anxiety/nerves.
I guess that's true, but the problem have with this is that going out for a weekend with someone where the only major benefit is that you were forced to approach a lot is not worth $1800. Hell I could force people to approach all weekend, and all I'd ask for is for them to buy me beer.

The problem I have with bootcamps is the way they're marketed in general. They sell it as a LIFE CHANGING EARTH SHATTERING EXPERIENCE, as if you'll go in a basement dweller, hang around with some guy in a funny hat for 3 nights and come out as a stone cold pimp. That idea doesn't stand up to even a few minutes of honest scrutiny.
Life doesn't work that way. If you have no game and can't approach or interact well then sorting that takes TIME and WORK, you can't just throw money at the dude from VH1 and expect a massive difference overnight.

Aside from that all the information you will get from a bootcamp (especially with old school MM guys like Arash and Matador) is readily available online for free. I took a glance at Arash's website and it looks like he's still using that A3-C1-C2 etc timeline thing. That thing's a cumbersome waste of time anyway, most guys end up trying to get that sort of complex tactical stuff OUT of their heads.

So like I say, don't expect magic with anyone, if you were really set on doing a bootcamp I wouldn't do it with them. There are much better guys out there who'll charge less and won't clutter your head up with irrelevant schtick.


Y'all think it's bougie, I'm like, it's fine
But I'm tryin' to give you a million dollars worth of game for $9.99