The problem is - the existing guys who have success with women, drop ALL the gimmicks

I remember when i first joined and i found some posts with Jaz and K about going out round manchester handing out playing cards to girls and wearing them round their necks etc

I think once you have a lot of success with girls you just dont give a shit about that stuff anymore- you dont need to rely on gimmicks to get you girls

I think we have all lost our hunger