I'd say like you Phil, members advocate gaining confident, leadership qualities and essentially point out behaviour that cause patterns of weakness.

I think also people have different styles. Some people like yourself are very straight in terms of this = that or a + b = c, some people like to play devils advocate and some people feel stronger as a group. Sometimes users are just frustrating going round in circles so you tell them to MTFU - a point in case is the current GenePoole insecurities thread - just the same crap rehashed and rehashed, people telling him to man up and the OP wallowing in self-pity

By the look of things most members take the same journey - even looking back at some of kowalski and other users posts you see that people start of using canned material, routines and other PU guff but after a while realise that it feels fake and unnatural so then people look at what does work.

They then follow advice to become stronger minded, confident leaders rather than socially awkward youths looking for the password to girls pants...