yea thanks guys yea that is a good point i would be lost if they said why but i like that monk that is cool i may acctually use that il see what reactions it gets in the feild and what big names are there in the uk for the pua's i know the americans but im so new to this that i havent even heard any uk names and is there any seminars held here for free as i cant afford to pay 100s or 1000s of pounds to go i dont earn much.