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18-05-2011, 04:59 PM
Flaking happens for all sorts of reasons there are countless books/videos on this but I would say the main reasons most common are:
You’re a great guy she could be attracted to but isn’t ready for whatever reason.
She didn’t want to reject you because again you come across as a great guy.
She’s flattered by the attention but again she’s not sure.
Sometimes she gives you her number for all of the above.
So you go for a date and two hours before she goes into panic mode. Will it be boring? Will it be awkward? Is he just after sex? What if he rejects her? So you get the text ‘its been a hard day and she’s tired’
Meeting a guy is scary for girls, are you PU? Are you desperate? Are you weird?
Okay some Anti-flaking tactics I use (I can’t claim this is my material I just cut and pasted it) but they work.
Have something specific to do. Rather than simply say “let’s hang out sometime”, you can ask her to help you shop for your niece’s birthday or something similar. Having an actual activity will make her look more forward to the date and give it some purpose.
Bait her into suggesting the meet up. Let her chase you. Drop little hints (“I’m going to X” or “I’d love to do Y”) and see if she tries to become part of those plans or says something like “That sounds fun; I’d love to do something like that”. If she says this, take the chance to invite her out.
Do not make the date, or the phone number exchange, the last part of your interaction. Doing this can make the interaction feel like a pickup as opposed to a genuine interaction. Consequently, stay at least 5 minutes after the interaction and continue talking to her and flirting in this 5 minutes if possible.
Engage her friends. her friends should be excited that she met you. To a woman, her friends’ approval for the men she dates is very important.
Set up callback humour. If you can create a running joke during your interaction or have a nickname for her, you can use this when you phone her later on as funny material. Using these jokes or nicknames can often trigger a reversal to the emotional state that she was in when she first met you. She will be brought back to the world of being out, having fun and meeting men as opposed to whatever mundane thing she was actually doing when you called.
(I’m well into NLP, this is seriously powerful by giving her a nickname and providing the interaction was fun for her this can take her right back to that time and any feelings of flaking are suspended)
Program your number into her phone. Many people will not answer the phone if they do not know who is calling. If you program your number into her phone, she will know that it is you. Ideally, you would set up even more callback humour by programming your name as “My hero” or “2pac” or anything else that is playfully relevant to the situation.
If she is strongly interested in you at the first interaction and you both connect well, tell her exactly when you will call and get her to promise to answer. However, do not make this sound too serious.
What should you do if a woman flakes?
Here is the best thing to do when a woman who you are not currently dating flakes:
Nothing!
Do not be upset. Do not lecture her. The truth is that she probably does not care that she missed the date because if she cared enough, she probably would not have flaked in the first place. Ask yourself, ‘would she have flaked if the date was with Brad Pitt?’
The answer is ‘no’. The reason is simply because you did not have the requisite value to get her to want to come on a date with you.
Any ‘punishing’ that you do will simply make her associate you with bad emotions and make her feel bad momentarily (but will soon be forgotten and will not help your chances). Instead, remember the principle of ‘pre-selection’ and act like a man who has plenty of women interested in him. Such a man would not be especially thrown off by the flake. He has other women in his life who would love see him, and more likely than not, whatever it was that he was going to do with her was something that he would enjoy doing anyway with cool friends. If this frame is not perfectly clear and obvious to you, you can even try to cancel the next time you set up a date with a random woman. Listen for her reaction and learn to copy it. You will see that it did not ruin her day and that it should not ruin yours.
A phrase that you can use if she cancels is, “no problem, I’ll invite someone else”.
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18-05-2011, 06:25 PM
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Do not make the date, or the phone number exchange, the last part of your interaction. Doing this can make the interaction feel like a pickup as opposed to a genuine interaction. Consequently, stay at least 5 minutes after the interaction and continue talking to her and flirting in this 5 minutes if possible.
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Definitely have to get this down more! Great advice Knave, I've always had closing and day2 issues until very recently - much appreciated
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18-05-2011, 07:36 PM
Good advice Knave, I know I made the mistake of not staying after getting the number.
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18-05-2011, 08:18 PM
It is good advice and you guys are always banging on about being natural, well being natural does not involve doing a runner once she's given you her number, hang around enjoy her company, cement the deal the more time you spend with her the more likely she be to open her legs.
Glad the pointers (not mine) are helping.
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18-05-2011, 11:43 PM
Knave, if you're going to copy paste people's work you should at least give credit to the sources or a linkback
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18-05-2011, 11:48 PM
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Knave, if you're going to copy paste people's work you should at least give credit to the sources or a linkback
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You're right I should
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19-05-2011, 06:12 AM
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being natural does not involve doing a runner once she's given you her number, hang around enjoy her company
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every now and then on this forum I spot something tucked away in someone's thoughts that is bigger, at least for me, than the words alone imply and gets into my head...that little bit is one of those.
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19-05-2011, 10:25 AM
My girl flaked on me last night, no laughing at the back, don’t you think I know I’m setting myself up here. Nothing is fool proof, distracting a womans logical mind is sometimes not as easy as it sounds.
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19-05-2011, 11:14 AM
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(I can’t claim this is my material I just cut and pasted it)
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this is plagarism
a quick Google search shows that Knave has taken the text uncredited and without copyright approval from these commerical companies' sources
Here is an example of how to avoid plagarism, using a very short quoted text clearly attributed to source:
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Plagiarism on the Internet
Content scraping is a phenomenon of copying and pasting material from Internet websites, affecting both established sites and blogs.
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Plagiarism is not only the mere copying of text, but also the presentation of another's ideas as one's own, regardless of the specific words or constructs used to express that idea.
Plagiarism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Wikipedia)
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Note my example uses Wikipedia which clearly states a Creative Commons licence - as opposed to the higher restrictions a commerical company like Lovesystems will have.
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19-05-2011, 11:26 AM
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this is plagarism
a quick Google search shows that Knave has taken the text uncredited and without copyright approval from these commerical companies' sources
Here is an example of how to avoid plagarism, using a very short quoted text clearly attributed to source:
Note my example uses Wikipedia which clearly states a Creative Commons licence - as opposed to the higher restrictions a commerical company like Lovesystems will have.
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What I find most amusing is the sources you have highlighted are also guilty of plagarism because not one of them mentions the true source of this material which is 'Braddock'.
EDIT Just re-read the loinks the first link does but the other TWO don't.
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