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Default My PU Epiphany - 20-07-2010, 03:43 PM

Hey guys. I thought id make a post regarding an epiphany I had about this whole pickup community. It happened to me about 2 weeks ago and was the reason that I joined this forum in the first place. I have been meaning to make a post on it since.

Iv been reading and researching PU on and off for around 1 year. Like many I started with ‘The Game’ whilst on holiday and was instantly seduced into thinking I could develop the same ‘Magic Powers’ to get any woman into my bed and riding my face just by muttering a few magic words to her and learning a few quirky routines.

When I got back from holiday I immersed myself into learning anything and everything that I could in regards to learning PU. After a few months I thought I knew it all. I had opinion openers coming out of my arse, I had a list as long as my leg of negs and I knew the model to follow. Open>Transition>Attract>Qualify>Comfort>Close.

Now that I had the secrets nailed down it was time to test it out. I went to town with a friend. Foolishly I told him that tonight he was going to witness the greatest in seduction techniques since the days of Casanova. How so very wrong I was. The first hot girl I saw I started to approach and once I got within 2 feet of her I bailed. I fuckin chickened out like the huge pussy I was. My friend stood there laughing and I felt like the biggest twat in the universe. I wouldn’t cold approach again for around 4 months after this and as far as I was concerned I was done with PU. I was just going to have to be one of those guys who settles for second best and manages to do ok with the average girls.

It was a complete chance conversation with a friend of mine (who’s an awesome natural with women) a couple months later that PU cropped up again. I asked him about how he’s successful with women and what was his reply? Something along these lines;

‘Mate I just don’t give a fuck. They either like me or they don’t. If they do then that’s awesome. If they don’t then it’s their fuckin problem’

I contemplated my friends sage like advice and after some thinking something happened in my head; the sky got a little but bluer, the grass a little greener, the flowers smelt a little bit sweeter. I realised there and then that I had it wrong all this time. I needed to be more confident, I needed to stop caring what people thought about me, I needed to get what I wanted in life and I needed to for once in my life be A MAN!

I was ready to immerse myself once again. This time however I only wanted to know about making myself more confident and being the man I was born to be. I wasn’t interested in openers, negs & DHV’s anymore. I just wanted to learn to like myself.

Guys like Jim Rohn, Tony Robbins, Napoleon Hill and Eckhart Tolle to name but a few helped me do this. I began reading PU material again, but this time it was purely focused on ‘Inner Game’. Things were slowly beginning to make sense for me. I felt renewed, I felt refreshed, I felt a strange peace come over me the day I accepted who I was and I am what I am.

Of course I still have issues with myself and I seldom catch myself slipping back to my unconfident ways but I quickly remind myself where those limiting beliefs will lead me and the sensation is very short lived.

I was ready to go back out there and get what’s mine. Before I did this however I thought it would be cool to look at PU forums and see where other people are at in their journeys and read about their experiences. I looked through a few and just found them to be the same old ‘Which opener is better’ ‘How do I DHV in this scenario’. I wasn’t interested in that. Luckily I came across this fine forum, and read the fascinating journeys of Covert Operation and Sapmi. I found myself smiling and nodding my head at the guru like wisdom of Kowalski and Jaz. Most importantly from reading the posts on here it made me kick myself up my arse and GET OUT THERE!

I practice Brazilian Jiujitsu (BJJ). I have DVD’s, books, magazines and films on BJJ. You know how I got good at BJJ? BY DOING BJJ! PU is exactly the same. How could I expect to be good at it just by reading and watching it? I had to do it!

This my friends is where I draw to a close. It was two weeks ago I found the forum, two weeks ago I threw caution to the wind and said ‘I am who I am, I going out there and im getting this area of my life handled once and for all’. In two weeks iv been blown out, iv #-closed k-closed and f-closed. How? Not because I new some amazing routine or have to best opener ever. It’s because I love myself and accept who I am, if a girl wants to be a part of my life she’s going to have an amazing time and if she doesn’t then that’s her loss.

Im just starting on this journey and have many mountains to climb and many rivers to cross. But one things for sure its going to be an awesome ride and wherever it takes me il be proud of myself for doing what so many would never do. If I can offer any advice to anyone it would pretty much be this;

‘Be yourself, love yourself, get out there and most importantly have fun!’

Peace out guys.
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Default 20-07-2010, 10:26 PM

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Hey guys. I thought id make a post regarding an epiphany I had about this whole pickup community. It happened to me about 2 weeks ago and was the reason that I joined this forum in the first place. I have been meaning to make a post on it since.

Iv been reading and researching PU on and off for around 1 year. Like many I started with ‘The Game’ whilst on holiday and was instantly seduced into thinking I could develop the same ‘Magic Powers’ to get any woman into my bed and riding my face just by muttering a few magic words to her and learning a few quirky routines.

When I got back from holiday I immersed myself into learning anything and everything that I could in regards to learning PU. After a few months I thought I knew it all. I had opinion openers coming out of my arse, I had a list as long as my leg of negs and I knew the model to follow. Open>Transition>Attract>Qualify>Comfort>Close.

Now that I had the secrets nailed down it was time to test it out. I went to town with a friend. Foolishly I told him that tonight he was going to witness the greatest in seduction techniques since the days of Casanova. How so very wrong I was. The first hot girl I saw I started to approach and once I got within 2 feet of her I bailed. I fuckin chickened out like the huge pussy I was. My friend stood there laughing and I felt like the biggest twat in the universe. I wouldn’t cold approach again for around 4 months after this and as far as I was concerned I was done with PU. I was just going to have to be one of those guys who settles for second best and manages to do ok with the average girls.

It was a complete chance conversation with a friend of mine (who’s an awesome natural with women) a couple months later that PU cropped up again. I asked him about how he’s successful with women and what was his reply? Something along these lines;

‘Mate I just don’t give a fuck. They either like me or they don’t. If they do then that’s awesome. If they don’t then it’s their fuckin problem’

I contemplated my friends sage like advice and after some thinking something happened in my head; the sky got a little but bluer, the grass a little greener, the flowers smelt a little bit sweeter. I realised there and then that I had it wrong all this time. I needed to be more confident, I needed to stop caring what people thought about me, I needed to get what I wanted in life and I needed to for once in my life be A MAN!

I was ready to immerse myself once again. This time however I only wanted to know about making myself more confident and being the man I was born to be. I wasn’t interested in openers, negs & DHV’s anymore. I just wanted to learn to like myself.

Guys like Jim Rohn, Tony Robbins, Napoleon Hill and Eckhart Tolle to name but a few helped me do this. I began reading PU material again, but this time it was purely focused on ‘Inner Game’. Things were slowly beginning to make sense for me. I felt renewed, I felt refreshed, I felt a strange peace come over me the day I accepted who I was and I am what I am.

Of course I still have issues with myself and I seldom catch myself slipping back to my unconfident ways but I quickly remind myself where those limiting beliefs will lead me and the sensation is very short lived.

I was ready to go back out there and get what’s mine. Before I did this however I thought it would be cool to look at PU forums and see where other people are at in their journeys and read about their experiences. I looked through a few and just found them to be the same old ‘Which opener is better’ ‘How do I DHV in this scenario’. I wasn’t interested in that. Luckily I came across this fine forum, and read the fascinating journeys of Covert Operation and Sapmi. I found myself smiling and nodding my head at the guru like wisdom of Kowalski and Jaz. Most importantly from reading the posts on here it made me kick myself up my arse and GET OUT THERE!

I practice Brazilian Jiujitsu (BJJ). I have DVD’s, books, magazines and films on BJJ. You know how I got good at BJJ? BY DOING BJJ! PU is exactly the same. How could I expect to be good at it just by reading and watching it? I had to do it!

This my friends is where I draw to a close. It was two weeks ago I found the forum, two weeks ago I threw caution to the wind and said ‘I am who I am, I going out there and im getting this area of my life handled once and for all’. In two weeks iv been blown out, iv #-closed k-closed and f-closed. How? Not because I new some amazing routine or have to best opener ever. It’s because I love myself and accept who I am, if a girl wants to be a part of my life she’s going to have an amazing time and if she doesn’t then that’s her loss.

Im just starting on this journey and have many mountains to climb and many rivers to cross. But one things for sure its going to be an awesome ride and wherever it takes me il be proud of myself for doing what so many would never do. If I can offer any advice to anyone it would pretty much be this;

‘Be yourself, love yourself, get out there and most importantly have fun!’

Peace out guys.


great post mate.

u really just mirrored everythin i have come to realise, i two learnt and studied game for over a year and never really practiced it. I'm finally starting to practice it and starting to really improve, i remember reading some of my bjj books but when it came to doing the move under the pressure of a roll there would be things i didnt account for didnt adjust to and wasnt able to think quick enough to use the move, just like pu. To reitorate what you were saying Practice + having fun + not giving a fuck is the key to true success, all the theory and openers are just surface level stuff u need these other things in place to have any true success imo.


the greatest success is found when you get outside your comfort zone
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Default 23-07-2010, 07:24 AM

I can relate to this post so much.

I've been doing exactly the same for a while now and KJing. The funny thing is that I've found that when I've gone out and practiced the stuff, I've had success, but more importantly I've had alot of fun doing it.

My problem is consistency. I find something that works and then I immediately want to try something else! This doesn't just apply to PU, I study Krav Maga and find that I'm always wanting to try new stuff rather than perfecting the stuff I already know, especially the basic building blocks of the style!

I need to find my system, my favourite successful method and stick with it until I perfect it before moving on.

Great post Phenom.....
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Default 23-07-2010, 07:56 AM

Inspirational

we share the same path.


Aim high, achieve great things
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Default 23-07-2010, 07:59 AM

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I need to find my system, my favourite successful method and stick with it until I perfect it before moving on.
Bruce lee

“I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”


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Default 08-08-2010, 11:47 PM

I haven't been a member of this forum long but already I can see it is going to help me loads you have given me like a really inspirational lift thanks a lot although its really hard to go out and approach I guess I have to learn to become accepting of myself in order for others to accept me. It's a lot easier said then done though (for me anyway) .
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Default 08-08-2010, 11:59 PM

Fantastic post man, Im still working on my inner game. I feel im almost at a point of breaking through : )
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Default 17-08-2010, 09:14 PM

That was really great to read. I managed to stop caring what others thought of me about a month ago. It really helped with confidence and the such, but accidentally unleashed the bastard in me. I'm now having to reel in the parts of me that I don't like.

I think I read in the game last year: "Don't just be yourself, be your best self."

Looking forward to reading more from you Phenom.
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Default 18-08-2010, 10:48 PM

Awesome post man. I've begun to realise that inner game is true game in a sense. Once you conquer yourself then you can conquer any girl.

I started exactly the same as you. Wanting to absorb every bit of PU material and use it. But i quickly came to realise that I'm way to lazy to learn it all...Especially when working two jobs! This forum has helped me because its honest, down to earth advice. There is no bullshitting, everyone says how it is...How it should be said.
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