Kesia Noble Book and DVDs
 

Hi guys...

have been watching Kesia's DVDs 10 hook lead dvd, and will watch deep connection later today before going out tonight.

As always with Kesia, amazing stuff and such a refreshing change from watching a yank magician....

9/10 so far...

watch it... anyone wants links.. let me know

Never seen in any of her material so have no idea if she brings any value or not but what a pair of tits.

Atleast you can force yourself to sit through the video lol

She definitely takes full advantage of herself for marketing purposes.

Kezia Noble | Pick Up Artist (PUA) | Worlds leading female pick up artist How to Attract Sexy Women | How to Attract Hot Women | DVD’s and Books

Oh well I think its very good mate

come to think of it....

shes not affliated to pua training... shes gone solo...

also whats shes teaching is basics, no lines or routines, its how to be natural, which if you are a "conman" like me, aparently in 2011 its the year of the natural..

but i do agree i love the RSD stuff...

also how can improving with women get "out dated" ????

chicks dont change just the methods of picking them up do.
Imatation = pua stuff. will only get you so far, its learning from the outside in.

Natural stuff is learning from the inside out.

Kowalksi put me on to RSD. It's really sorting my head out. The Blueprint decoded is great.

I've met Kesia. I'd rass that around all over the place. I've listened to her pick up stuff. Like anything, worth a listen too, a few good pointers but most of it just didn't make sense (to me). Certainly wouldn't spend money on it.

yep i agree... blueprint is amazing...

But i have to say it so is this new stuff from Kesia, over the last 2 weeks Ive been ditching the routines and conman stuff and using her "method"

I used it the other night and it enambled me to go direct and in general the interactions went great and I k-closed...

I was going to make a longer post after the xmas holidays about it, and how it can work for you.

Basically the 10 hook lead system can help keep the convo flowing, as every newbie will testify to the racing mind syndrome and interview style questioning, and the deep connection bit will make sure what are you staying/asking her/getting from her is creating connection, which in turn will create rapport/attraction, which is my sticking point....

Sorry Jaz my friend, I cant rate it enough matey, ps and I didnt buy It I borrowed it :)

i really found puatrianing to be one of the few that didnt try and scam and tricka and went much more 'natural'. The things that i learnt being natural making connections from gambler and kezia have been useful, and theres a constant update on new techniques on the puatrianing blog.. perhaps im mistaken and maybe they are conmen..but i remember emailing richard la ruina about a problem i had with a girl, and he sent me a number of a guy to talk to help me deal with it and has always seemed like a good guy imo..

When I first got into this I sent messages to loads of gurus including, Mystery, Lovedrop, Neil Strauss, Gambler and AFC Adams. The only two that ever responded were Gambler and Adams; they even added me on facebook. In fact Gambler has answered my every message, even ones that are not about pickup and he has never once tried to sell me anything.

Just because someone has good customer service doesn't mean their service is any good.

Richard la Ruina, ive not really known what to make off, I have read his book and seen the 3 dvds...

But,Kesia I always rated quite well, and when I have been out, have found her advice and insite has helped me considerably recently when Im closing targets.

Before I read the book, and seen the dvds I kept using routines and cold reads,and was closing randomly, however this week I tried her advice of treating everything that she says as a hook, and asking for intruging questions and i managed to get alot better interaction going..

So it has helped me out

I'll try look into it over the new year and see what the buzz is about :)

I just download everything for free anyway, so I don't get upset about the commercial aspect.

exactly considering his book is FREE to order i don't see why people should not even bother giving it a read because he is trying to "scam" you..

i have bought or paid for nothing from them and learnt a fair bit and none of it has felt like it is anything but honest.. i don't understand were the hatred is coming from.. the NATURAL art of seduction was a great read as was kezias. The general jist of it was helping you make honest deep connections with a girl, with the constant stream of emails from la ruina giving free videos and advice why do you hate him so much ??? He is one of the most genuine puas....

In my correspondence with him I've found him to be a polite and personable human being. I'm not going to hate him just because he is an extremely successful business man.

I'd really like to check out Kezia's material, anyone with links to her vids, ebooks please pm me :o)

He can sleep on my settee for a free bootcamp.

some of his stuff hasnt been beneficial to me, but some has...

I have nothing against the guy, no one is forcing anyone to take a bootcamp or buy a dvd....

and if hes homeless, how come hes just come back from South America and has just done a bootcamp in Italy ?

do you have a cat kowalski ?

the first thing i stumbled upon after reading the game was his channel on youtube...

to a complete newbie, the basics of learning to smile when walking in a club, (yes i was that bad and that much of a gegineer, i didnt realise you had to smile alot !!! learning to lock in, learning better body language, i remember practicing my posture and such like and also about and about affirmations, which also helped me.

Thats what i learnt as a complete begineer, with no sarging experience...

so for me it was very helpful, and I have alot of respect for the guy...yes I could of read or learnt the same thing from TD,and Natural Tim, who I also rate very highly, but I stumbled upon Richards stuff first.

i also have both Kesia and Richard on my facebook, and cant say i can see anything on their about being homeless...

Tyler has it boxed. At the end of the day, all that matters is being in state. Then you can just let your instincts guide you.

Routines and openers help beginners until they realise that they are just placebos and then they don't work any more. After that, the only thing that can save you (apart from yourself) is The Blueprint Decoded.

Look what I've found here.

or the people who sit on the internet and never go out and try it

Somebody asked Kezia on her fb page if Mystery shagged her. She said, "I don't discuss my private life." I wonder if that means yes.

Anything that gets guys out talking to women (who were not previously doing so) is going to work to a certain extent.

I have a special place for Kezia because she was my first.:D

I read her book first the bible last, most PUA do it the other way round.

I saw the little minx on the cover of her book and yes walked out of my way to pick it up. She knows her marketing:clapclap:

its a good book I would reccomend 9/10.

The problem I have is what makes her good also makes her bad. As stated her marketing is shit hot, and she sells out workshops but I'm a tight arse and paying almost $250 for her two DVDs is too much. They are DVD's for fucks sake, if was going to pay that much I'd expect them hand delivered by Keiza herself nude.

Incidently, if any one has the DVD's they have watched and are looking to sell for sensible DVD's prices I'd be interested even consider C versions if you can mention the C word.

just download everything for free.

mate send me a pm please.... ill give you a belated xmas present

Hmmm yeah its dated but I can't see some newbie getting there teeth straight into the blueprint and not coming out the other side thinking they want a line to start a convo...

imo canned things are essential for newbies, even if they maybe are technically unnecessary. Some people wont be so open to rsd's philosophy before getting into the community through something more canned and systemic...

I agree with everyone's points here however how many people come to pickup through RSD compared to MM? I would say that RSD is better once your in the community but its not a doorway into it...

P.S. If your gonna learn that MM bullshit I would rather watch her tits while she teaches it than listen to Mystery himself...

For actual usefulness MM<RSD
If you want a total newbie to get involved in the community: The Game>The Blueprint (at first)

My opinions

Love db xx

My problem with all this is that there are constantly updated "techniques" being posted.

You guys honestly think that attraction is an evolutionarily moderated ability? That it hasn't been the same for more than 10 million years? Come on - people have been picking up fit girls for hundreds of years without these "techniques", what makes you think they're essential to pick-up now?

Kesia and her mates are full of shit. My cousin recently showed me a summary of her teachings and they're an excessively flowered version of Mystery Method. Valuable to the extent of giving abosolute newbies something to work with but valueless to men of real stature - "neg the target", "dhv", "go under the radar" etc.

Get fucked, you'll go alot further being yourself, having a right laugh and not giving a fuck.

We differ on this one K. Allow me to put the following:

For some newbies, the use of limited canned material can be helpful.

Far be it for me to suggest this is a one-size-fits-all solution. And I'm not suggesting a newbie might want to read The Mystery Method cover to cover before even thinking of opening a set. Rather, if I were out and about with a newbie, I would recommend the use of a basic canned opener to simply give them something to say to a girl, which doesn't require thought. The aim is to defeat AA, and to provide the first building block which says 'its ok to go and talk to a girl'.

From there the newbie may wish too, and would be recommended to seek non-canned openers, thus providing a second building block which says 'its ok to go and talk to a girl... And it doesn't actually matter what you say'.

Oh and just on the subject of Richard La Ruina and Kesia.

Richard La Ruina is a complete con artist who totally weirds me out. His book is garbage and a waste of paper. He spent time writing a book which essentially involved taking MM and moving some words around. That anyone would refer to his book positively is beyond me.

You know what Kezia's USP is? Its got fuck all to do with good technique or new ideas or sage advice. Kezia Noble's USP is that she's fit.

A fit girl telling you what works with fit girls? Well then, it must be true!

just out of interenst... what is the issue with earning money from pua, granted i agree they are a load of shit, but people are buyin it, its just business....

if some wally offered me £1000 to take him on a night out an teach him the ways... (granted i would teach him better than most of the above names, and none of the bollocks) but if it meant to teach them the generic PUA tactics...

i would do it...

The world is full of AFC's so selling easy accessible pussy is like selling Viagra or extend the size of your penis spam emails we’ve all had them. Anything that hits men’s basic needs is big business and PUA industry is only going to get bigger.

Everyone’s trying to making a buck from guys pimping out wingwomen for £20 a pop to PUA charging £1000’s for one-to-ones. This site will be no different maybe they are already planning revenue at some point, who knows, personally I couldn’t care a less. If I have to pay to sign in that’s different but advertisings fine by me. As for PUA showing me field tactics for a price, I'd rather buy a coke and learn myself.

There always has been and always will be people offering seminars on how to change your life, become a millionaire or become a woman magnet and if people want to pay these people then I shake my head in disbelief but whilst there are punters there is always going to be people punting services.

I’m proud of the fact that my only outlay has been books, okay I’ve read quite a few but I hey I like reading books so I don’t consider this cost. I passed on the books I’ve read so someone else benefits. Keiza book got given to a girl I know at work and I reckon every girl on the 5th floors read it.

PUA artists like Keiza in some way know they have the market to themselves and simply making hay while the sun shines.

You missed this bit


Christ do people have to be so literal:) You know what I mean PUA trainer, although Kezia pulling chicks disguised as a guy nice idea.

Pick Up trainers and tutors are cashing in on the human condition which runs thus:

If you have a problem, chuck loads of money at the problem and it will be solved.

They are also very clever manipulators of the concept that most people are in fact very stupid, and will believe most things they see on TV and the internet.

This works everywhere in life, not just pick up. The whole point of advertising and marketing is to convince us that we have a problem which needs solving, and that by chucking money at said problem, our lives will be better. The truth is that the vast, vast, vast majority of advertising is bullshit. And actually, much of it is pretty grossly misleading, not least in the world of Pick Up.

For example, I sometimes visit Burger King. Never once have I had a smoking hot perfectly symmetrical burger, complete with crisp glistening lettuce and perfectly chopped equally sized onions thrust at me through a furious wall of flame. Now I've been into Burger King lots, and I'm very sorry, but it's really never like that in there at all. The burger is always slightly tough and slightly over cooked, the mayo is always dribbling down the side of the burger, the lettuce is always soggy and sometimes they forget the onion altogether, and I'm always served by some poor fucker with a skin disease. And there's no fire anywhere to be seen, at least not fire which looks like its supposed to be there.

So, basically, the adverts are lying to me. That's the long and the short of it. They're lying. They're not telling the truth. They're embellishing. They're misleading me. They're wilfully and knowingly telling me things which aren't true. They present their product in a light which is not accurate. They are presenting a brand image which in no way is representative of the reality of entering a Burger King store and eating a Whopper. That is advertising.

This is, broadly, the same way Pick Up works. You are presented with all these amazing claims that what you are being offered is a '100% Guaranteed System' which simply cannot fail, and which will leave you fighting off women with a lengthy stick, and that thousands of guys just like you are already using this system every single night of the week, and it will work for you too as long as you put your credit card details into this little box here and give us a bit of money first.

Its misleading. Its lying. Its bollocks. There is no caveat which says:

...by the way. Just so you know, this is actually quite difficult to grasp. It might take you several months, even years to figure out. You're going to beat yourself up when you get it wrong, you're gonna feel like a bit of a dick from time to time, and this isn't all going to be completely pleasant. But stick at it, and you might just get good. But we can't guarantee anything, obviously.

Nope, there's none of that. There is simply misleading, lying, bollocks, promises of a quick fix solution which everyone is looking for but in fact no-one could actually possibly offer.

The people who train and get paid for it are cunning. They know people are stupid, and that they can manipulate you. I mean, for God's fucking sake, look at that Kesia bird. Is she training guys whilst wearing a sensible but cosy turtle neck jumper? No, she's got her tits wobbling around! She knows exactly what she's doing! She's saying 'Pay me some money, and I'll teach you what to do to get other people with boobs like these'.

But, you know something? She won't. She won't give you a quick fix system. There is no 100% guaranteed line that works every time. There isn't even a PUA anywhere in the world that can approach any girl any time and 100% guarantee that he'll close. But, the myth that such a level of success can be achieved is perpetuated in order that idiot guys continue to throw money at the problem.

For a broad overview of my thoughts about advertisers and the advertising industry, watch this.

......Rant over. :)

Jaz... i can see what ur up 2

its a conspiracy

Ok! So kowalski

Playing on ignorace is pretty much the entirety of business

8 meg broadband get yours now... 8 mega bit not byte but plastered all over the tv as 8 MEG for the less knowledgeable

BT AOL Virgin Vodaphone

This new K Cal crap about how fat is good for u from macdonalds

Nutellas new ENERGY FOR THE DAY crap

its all sales... essentially, they will give the guys who buy the product a feeling of confidence so they may approach women. although it doesnt work, if it makes them feel as tho it does its a product.

its all sales, makin there shit sound better than it is. What business man in their right mind would say "my product is average, buy one now"! dont happen.

every company makes what they are selling sound better than it is OF COURSE THEY DO who cares...? good on anyone who goes an does it.

if i had time i would

YES, I can, but again, please refer to my thread.

im basically saying so is the same for most products on the face of the planet, i guess it depends on what u want from life. My product i sell is a waste of space, yet i make it sound the shit

i could either

a, find a normal job maybe in retail

or

b, let it go and accept it, earn the money i do to allow such freedom of life.

Morals vs Business is an age old argument and there is a saying

Its not personal, Its Just Business!