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Giant 28-07-2011 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52241)
Weed cures all.


Peace,

kowalski

And helps to create apathy

Refl3x 28-07-2011 11:11 AM

Ive had nothing but bad experiences with weed so dont touch it
there is 'apparently' a link between weed use and Scitzophrenia too

Guest 28-07-2011 12:08 PM

How exactly will serotonin help me aside from improving my sleep (and possibly making the next day shit according to some reviews, but not all)? This is a genuine question not a sarcastic remark..

I hate the smell of weed, it stinks, plus I don't smoke never have never will it's horrid..

I don't think there is such thing as a permanent high.. unfortunately..

My problem is, when on a low, I think way too much about it

Giant 28-07-2011 12:13 PM

You may well be right, obviously it's commercially grown stuff that I've been hooked on.
I did mean that it makes me apathetic, I've spent most of the last 8 years or so high, and I've found that I can't be bothered to do things, I've felt that it doesn't matter.
I will still smoke, just not all the time. I've found myself FAR more motivated over the last couple of weeks.
I do acknowledge that there are other factors involved though.

True that is the general cliche, I find it true even without the weed though.

Blanca 28-07-2011 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Refl3x (Post 52230)
Hey Pal, you could try some of this:
5-HTP Capsules 50mg from Myprotein

they have a nice calming effect and help top up Serotonin levels
its an amino acid btw

Seconded. I'm on these at the moment and they even you right out. They're on special offer at Holland and Barrett at the moment - 120 for about 15 quid. Enough for 60 days.

Also, to be massively pedantic, 5-HTP (5-hydroxytryptophan) is not an amino acid, but a derivative of the amino acid tryptophan and the precursor for serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine). It basically boosts the brain's supply of serotonin, but a way that doesn't make you go mental - it's up to the body and its supply of enzymes how fast it'll convert 5-HTP to 5-HT, so it's not like taking speed or anything.

Guest 28-07-2011 12:54 PM

What does an increase in serotonin do? I googled but found nothing

Blanca 28-07-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by al_phaD (Post 52253)
What does an increase in serotonin do? I googled but found nothing

Serotonin is basically the happy neurotransmitter. An increase of serotonin makes you feel happy, close to people, motivated and optimistic. Have a read of the depression thread - I've gone into more depth there:

http://www.puaforum.co.uk/psychology...epression.html

Knave 28-07-2011 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52258)

... and addiction to weed is like addiction to carrots. Ridiculous.

kowalski you’re an intelligent guy but this is bollocks.

Addiction to cannabis in itself I would agree is not addictive, but addiction to the feeling of ‘being high’ is a reality for many people.

Knave 28-07-2011 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52263)
Addiction to the feeling of being upset is a reality for a serious number of people.

...and drugs, legal or otherwise is not the answer. This just kicks up a host of other problems.

Giant 28-07-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52258)
I don't use apathy to mean failure to act or failure to care about acting, but rather not getting excited about stuff, not wanting to vehemently discuss things, not getting lost in flow. I think this is the standard usage. Not doing stuff is different. Someone can be very passionate about a lot of things, but not necessarily take many actions in life. I don't think that is properly called apathy, may just be my usage though.

I don't use apathy to describe a lack of motivation, I use it to describe the feeling of it not mattering.

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52258)

... and addiction to weed is like addiction to carrots. Ridiculous.

That's a bold statement, I'd agree that there is no chemical addiction to cannabis, but there can be a very strong psychological addiction. Look at crack (never touched it myself) but that is a pure psychological addiction. I can cite numerous other examples.

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 52263)
Addiction to the feeling of being upset is a reality for a serious number of people. Being upset isn't addictive, those people have problems.

Addictions generally come down to underlying psychological problems, people search for a state where they feel happy, and whatever they are addictied to helps them to reach this state. Look at gambling addictions, nothing is actually consumed, it is a pure addiction to chemicals released by the brain upon specific stimulation.

I'd like to note here that I've talked about having a problem with weed, this is something I'm moving away from, it's been about 2 weeks since I've had a spliff. This has only been possible because I've moved into a more positive mental state, where I don't need the good feelings that my sub-conscious associate with weed. Win!


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