Ok so I joined this forum a few weeks ago, and I've been reading lots of stuff on here, and I've found some truly inspirational stuff on here.
I'll be completely honest and say I've only really been out once, playing with any of this PUA stuff, so I have no real experience of PUA but I think most of it is rubbish. I've read the game, and started reading some David Deangelo and Ross Jefferies. (I've become fascinated recently with NLP & Hyponsis, basically the power and influence of the sub-conscious. However I feel that using such techniques to get women to sleep with you is slightly repugnant, I do however appreciate the enormousness therapeutic potential of such techniques)

I've just realised the size of the statement in brackets and feel the need to qualify the shit I'm writing by saying I'm rather wasted at the moment.

Ok so as I said I've been reading a lot on here, and listened to about half of the blueprint so far. I guess what will follow is not truly my insight, merely insights already realised focused through the lens of I.

I guess this thread was inspired by a message I was writing in that message was this text;

A couple of philosophical musings whilst writing this message;

Everything comes down to core beliefs about yourself, how you see you others reactions to you, and your associated insecurities. After you realise that, if you allow yourself to be, you are free.

You can spend your whole time being tense and nervous, worrying about other people reactions towards you, or you can just have fun, use some sense, but just have FUN talk to people, joke around, not caring what people think.
With one of those paths people are put off, in one people are drawn in.
I've certainly followed the former for a long time, I've recently learned how to start letting go, the reason for this... the realisation that it DOES NOT MATTER

I'm kind of chatting shit here through being wasted, it's stuff that's filtering through my mind at the moment, I think it makes sense though on re-reading.

I heard about the whole PUA thing from hearing Neil Strauss on Radio 1, afterwards I read The Game. I was both enthralled and repulsed, I loved the idea of getting girls easily, but found the whole world and the terminology slightly repulsive(certain phrases make sense though i.e kino)

I've also been on a general path to self improvement, my life has been in a rut, doing essentially the same mediocre job for the last 6-7 years, smoking far too much weed and generally going nowhere. That is something else I am addressing.
I don't think I'll strive to be a PUA, I will however talk to a lot more girls, go out more and as Kowalski so eloquently puts it "strive to be socially awesome"
I've seen many different valid approaches, personally I don't want to learn tricks, I just want to remain comfortable within myself. I'm already starting to realise how little it matters what someone you don't have regular interaction with thinks of you.
If you have the confidence to not care, then that is attractive. If your tight and nervous (as I've been for a long time) then people sense it and you go no-where. It's kind of an interesting paradox when you think about it.
I'm feeling that the main reason that any "game" stuff works is because of the confidence that it gives people, it allows them to believe that they have a system to get girls, and therefore they believe that they can get girls, so they do.

It all comes down to just having fun, and enjoying things.

Therefore the key to my future success, is to stop living within my head, to let go of many of my beliefs and restrictions. To allow myself to be in the here and now, rather than thnking about the future always.

I feel myself wondering into incoherence about now, so I'll stop rambling for now, we shall see how my thoughts lie after spending more time out and interacting.
Drew

you can use nlp to give peeps great experiences. Like suggesting happy feelings. it's not the tool but how you use it.

like a witch vs a wizard. wizards are usually good funny I just noticed the sexism best not let the feminists know otherwise the wizard of oz is gonna et banned.

Oh I see enormous amounts of power in NLP, like a lot of things, it's how you use it that matters. Using a slightly cliched example here, but look at the power of nuclear fission, it can be used for destruction or power generation. Both use essentially the same process, one is highly destructive whilst the other is useful.
To be totally honest, looking into hypnosis and NLP have made me once again consider training as a psychotherapist.
Are you talking about suggesting happy feelings to help persuade women into bed?

Hey Drew,

I agree 100% with your post and I'm sure a lot of the guys here do as well.
The term PUA is just cheesy and pathetic. Being socially awesome as K puts it is cool.
You're already half way there mate

Mark