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08-04-2011, 06:39 AM
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I appreciate what you are saying and the spiritual/developmental perspective you are inferring, but do you not think there is room for identifying problems in the world and hoping to change them for the better? Then again, I can't change them so why do I bother with the wasted energy lol?
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that are there not dangers to too much passivity in that problems are allowed to run amuck, the whole "good men doing nothing" aspect?
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Why do you think you can't change things?
If everyone thought this, we'd all be scewed.
If I wanted to change things in Libya, I could always gather a few hundred or thousand people, buy some guns and rocket launchers and get a one way ticket :P
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08-04-2011, 07:44 AM
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Why do you think you can't change things?
If everyone thought this, we'd all be scewed.
If I wanted to change things in Libya, I could always gather a few hundred or thousand people, buy some guns and rocket launchers and get a one way ticket :P
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I don't, I was temporarily thinking out loud the opposite position whilst forming an opinion, as you will see in subsequent comments.
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08-04-2011, 11:49 AM
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just for the record I've learnt a lot of stuff from people who I believe to be stupid.
second pretending your stupid is a trick often employed by con men on unsuspecting "smart people"
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the sayin is,
it takes a wise man to play the fool
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12-04-2011, 10:22 PM
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i understand it, i know its going on, im not ignorant to the fact shit like that happens..
just why let it get me down.
ur worry isnt gonna change a thing. knowing about it, or making huge gestures about how its important to care does not mean everyone should share your view.
there are not really any right or wrongs, just ways to act to get what you want.
ist x + y
not Your View = The tight outcome. ur narrow minded mate... and the fact that u will now come back sayin IM NARROW MINDED, & WRONG
ive never once said ur wrong, ur right in alot of what u say. just isnt how i wanna live..
but as u get older, u will change... todays worries are gonna be tomorrows memories. i dont want my memories filled with dismay.
second to that. think about everything in school u used to argue was RIGHT, and knowin u U WOULD ARGUE.
i was EXACTLY the same as u, dont think coz i ignore grammar i wernt.
i wasnt allowed to be in any top sets in school coz
"you are a disruption" yet i was left to do all higher exams (only one in second tier classes doing so) without learning most of the stuff i needed, was a problem child and did no coursework & needed to ace the exams to pass... pissed them... bright kids are usually know all'
ur no exception
ur points when u wer 15 WER 100% accurate...
and now, ur completely different.. i know they are
u ever thought u may be wrong about sum stuff?? u have stuff u need to learn
but
u live & learn
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It's ironic that you keep telling me I will learn and that you used to be like me. I am NOTHING like you - don't flatter yourself.
And there are things you can do to help situations - give money, volunteer etc. If everyone did it, it would make a HUGE difference, but I imagine that you don't trouble yourself with such trivialities.
"there are not really any right or wrongs, just ways to act to get what you want." - One of your biggest derps yet. Murder of innocent people isn't wrong? Rape isn't wrong? Even by your standards mate, that's pretty fucking stupid.
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13-04-2011, 07:38 AM
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Still considering joining the army?
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bla bla generic anti-military tripe from someone who obviously doesn't know mich about the topic whatsoever.
I'm actually thinking of the Royal Marines, not the army.
In a war situation, there's always going to be some casualties/fatalities who were innocent. But the armed forces do a very good job overall in my opinion, and of course, they screen people out who have a 'gung ho', shoot-at-anything kind of mindset.
I'm considering joining up to help people, and it's also a fucking cool lifestyle.
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13-04-2011, 07:56 AM
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I'm considering joining up to help people.
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But would you be helping people though?
Can you pick and choose where you are deployed: no. You'll be an instrument of policy. An expensively trained and skilled instrument of policy. They're not going to have you hugging Panda's in a white UN jeep, they're going to have you on the ground helping influence a ruckus in some war torn shit hole, so they can manipulate the geopolitics of the region. Policy is not benign. Look at some of the suspicions around 911, look at some of the suspicions around Al Qaeda, look at the lack of WMD, look at how Gaddafi suddenly went from friend to foe, look how 10% world trade goes through Egypt (Suez). There is a pattern, and it's called: power and money.
I'm not being judgemental or having a go, I'm just saying think about it before you come back with your leg blown off, full of resentment about how they lied to you about what you were doing.
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13-04-2011, 08:55 AM
[quote=Mad_Fer_It;42343]It's ironic that you keep telling me I will learn and that you used to be like me. I am NOTHING like you - don't flatter yourself.
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And there are things you can do to help situations - give money, volunteer etc. If everyone did it, it would make a HUGE difference, but I imagine that you don't trouble yourself with such trivialities.
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i worked for numerous charities, for childrens lukemia... and KIND for abused children. only to find the boss was pocketing the money!!
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"there are not really any right or wrongs, just ways to act to get what you want." - One of your biggest derps yet. Murder of innocent people isn't wrong? Rape isn't wrong? Even by your standards mate, that's pretty fucking stupid.
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i meant right an wrong ways to live your life... which of the two of us rape!! or kill innocent people???
lets rephrase for those who try and clutch at any straw to seem RIGHT!!
within moral boundaries. there are no right & wrong ways to live... its subjective to what you want from life.
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13-04-2011, 08:57 AM
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Still considering joining the army?
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bla bla generic anti-military tripe from someone who obviously doesn't know mich about the topic whatsoever.
I'm actually thinking of the Royal Marines, not the army.
In a war situation, there's always going to be some casualties/fatalities who were innocent. But the armed forces do a very good job overall in my opinion, and of course, they screen people out who have a 'gung ho', shoot-at-anything kind of mindset.
I'm considering joining up to help people, and it's also a fucking cool lifestyle.
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haha i tried to join the RAF when i was younger
i duno if you heard but i used to work with one of the uk largest charities aswell...
and i always thought i was right!! sound similar
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13-04-2011, 09:02 AM
I was going join the RAF as a gunner.. but I just couldn't motivate myself to do the fitness, I don't think I was ready for it. Plus, I wouldn't wana join the UK forces, with all the spending cuts and stuff..
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13-04-2011, 07:11 PM
are the royal marines recruiting trolls now?
oh well, individuality is over rated anyway
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