Well oddly enough women will come up to me while drawing saying how much they like them. There was this one instance where I was drawing on the tube. I was busy drawing one with two girls making out and there was this 50 year old women there. I was trying hide my pad because I thought she might be offended. She made a point of coming over to me to tell me how much she liked the image.

Honestly I have never had a negative response from women. No matter how dirty the image. Like last night I was drawing in the coffee shop close to my house. There was these two girls sitting across from me. So I tried that "What do you think about ...." opener. Ended up showing them all my drawings. The one girl even mentioned that she was hoping that I would come over and talk to them.

I would have tried to number close but I still dont know a good transition. But I next time I am going to go into the "So how do you two know each other?" bit. You know. Make it about them and move away from the drawings.

'give me your number and i`ll draw you somtime and we can go for a drink'
- if she gives you a cheeky response back
'ive got enough lead in my pencil to deal with you'
(check her out up n down)'woah just figuring out if i have enough paper to get your ass on there' (best said to somone thats slim)

could it be any easier?...no

Lol. Nice one. I guess I should only use it if I know she is into me. I get the feeling if the situation is not right I will get a slap. :-P

You are right I have not grown much. A newbie going solo and not having someone to point out my mistakes makes rejection a scary thing.

But I have grown in some ways. Going up to girls and talking to them is something I would not have dreamed of doing 6 months ago. In fact hanging out in a public place is not something I would have done 6 months ago. My fear is just about gone and I am starting to look into different ways of chatting to girls. As opposed not doing anything ever and hope some girls feels sorry enough for me to go out with me.

This to many people on the forum might not seem like much progress at all. I also agree that generally speaking that is true. But to me on a personal level this is a massive step forward.

wtf u dont know a good tranistion...

ur not gonna die if she says no

just fuckin say, giz ur number ill call u

Simple statistics show that by not asking for the close, you are very unlikely to get the close.

But if you asked every woman you meet for the close, you will be much more likely to get the close.

Speaking of stats, where is Jay these days?

Drawings are cool. What are you doing with them, selling them or owt.

@phill @alpha

I am learning and I am getting better. I am going to try something tonight if I get the chance.



I dont sell them. Takes to long to do and unless I get about 1000 pounds each it wont be worth my time. They take about 20-30 hours each.

its not a case of GETTING BETTER

next time u get in that situation

just think

FUCK IT... and go... look im unsure on how to say it so im just gonna say it...

can i have ur number

then there is no dickin about or transitions..

just tell ur mind to stop bein a pussy

Yes Phil. I said I was going to try something tonight if I get the change. I say if I get the chance because it is my birthday today so I will be busy.