How do you do this? I always get too drunk, I used to love it and often led to great stories and adventures that would be told back to me as I'd have no recollection. Now I'm a grown up I want to be able to go out and get drunk but still have a recollection and some 'control' during the night so I can pull properly and socialise a bit more. Its not like I'm some anti-social belligerent drunk either, I always seem make friends but I dunno just feels kinda pointless now.

If I'm sober I can easily control my drinking and shit but for some reason once I'm drunk I just hammer back drinks and I'm a light weight. I also have a strong habit of just wanting to go to the bar purely out of instinctive habit I guess.

The only things I can think of are to drink a pint of water between each drink and possibly drinking less pre-drink (I already do that which works well for the beginning but once I'm drunk its like "Hey lets do Jagerbomb challenges and wash it down with double JD and cokes, plus lets get a cheeky tequila too".

I can take out less money and leave my card at home I guess but I want to actually be able to have some drunken self-control to not get sooooo wasted.

Maybe I could stop having drinking as the 'focus' of my night and see it as a complement but that's quite a esoteric goal.

Ideas?

As crazy as it sounds, drink less. Drink more pints as opposed to spirits, and don't neck them, drink slower. Don't drink shots.

The big thing i always found when I went out when I was younger was some obsession with drinking everything at break neck pace, drinking games, shots etc. Try steer away from that. I can still go out and drink the whoel night but pacing myself and just end up a bit boozy or merry. But if I start hammering back the voddys or shots I just get obliterated and believe I'm a millionaire and spend a fortune on even more drinks.

Pints is definitely the way to go rather than shots obviously, I did some proper dumb stuff after major shot sessions in younger days.
also I have noticed it makes a huge difference if you switch to a session drink- something I picked up from rugby mates who do all dayers-I love the Camden Pale Ale but that's clocking in at 5% switching to a 3.4 makes a bug difference.
I've also found taking a coke and also switching to halves makes a difference too.
I've tried dating without alcohol but in my experience for some reason it seems to lack frisson, plus girls wondering are you ill or recovering alcoholic-says more about our culture.
What didn't work was drinking at home- I thought a few cheap beers at home would mean a cheap night and no drink when out, but I found I drank the same out regardless, if anything more drunk and more likely to get out the card and start buying shots for people.

I don't seem to be getting as pissed recently and I remember more and my interactions with birds are a bit better because I don't come across as fucking wrecked and I feel more switched on compared to all the other lads that are. I'd say don't pre drink. You may think that it saves money pre drinking but what I think actually happens is you're just more drunk when you get out. And when I'm drunk I just want more. So start nailing shots n shit because I'm enjoying the feeling.

For some reason drinking bottles works for me too, I think it might be because when it comes to necking some pint to get into the round or whatever, you neck half a pint n that's half a pint. You neck half a bottle n it's not going to hit you too hard. That and it's more expensive so I'm less likely to neck bottles haha

Thanks for the replies guys! Yeah I'm the same on most of those levels. I even call my wasted self 'Vince' and see him as a different person. Vince does mad shit like wrestle bouncers for no reason and smash up hotels he happens to walk passed and decides to investigate. Vince wakes up on trains to Sheffield with no recollection.

I went out this Friday and Saturday where I was able to be not TOO drunk on Friday where I was wearing an over-dressed rented Tuxedo for a casual night out which made me more aware of getting too drunk! I went out Saturday, got mildly drunk and banged a girl. Pretty much sums me up; being drunk really does ruin my chances haha.

Pre-drink for me will be more about just getting into a social fun mood.

I'll stick to bottles. No spirits or shots (although I do try this I forget about it when I'm pissed haha)

I'll make it my aim to not get a drink from the bar for the first 30 minutes and not even go NEAR the bar for those 30 minutes either. Hopefully that'll switch my drunk auto-pilot from seeing it as the baseline of my nights out.

Definitely going to try the water between every drink as well, maybe a coke as that's more tasty which will make me more likely to drink it (or more likely to switch to rum and cokes haha).

Its time Vince went into retirement. He'll never get with someone's Gran in front of them again.

I reckon keep to pints. get the 5% at first to get up, then switch to lower. Keep off wine and spirits.

The thing about booze is that it is a steep high and then a sudden down, and people try to keep that high, that delightful ascending feeling, by more-and-more booze, but this doesn't work, they just damage themselves.

Opium on the other hand is a high which sustains itself for many hours.

In a way, I suppose I should take opium as my recreational choice, but i choose booze.

The trick? Just don't try to keep high by more booze, once you have peaked then it can only be down or totally pissed-fucked. Alcohol is a pleasant high, but peaks and quickly falls. There is no real plateau. You have to accept this truth or you will just get yourself bloto, not what you were after, that pleasant high boozy feeling.

The more you are pissed, then expect your knob to not get rock hard, so just accept that and give great foreplay as the whole lot.