What does every one think of this?

Two guys.

If your wing does not approach in 10 secounds. U have to do 30 push ups in public, even if he approaches after 10 secounds. Guy or girl set does not matter. If he cannot stop the set 20 push ups, if he cannot stay in set for 2 minutes u have to do 10 push ups. Vice versa. U have to time your wing. He then times u.

It is to easy to punish yourself. So by seeing ur wing suffer, this motivates u to do what is necessary. Hopefully he will hate u, to add extra incentive. Also by doing push ups in public builds social confidence.

Bar game. Slightly different.
If your wing hestates for more 10 secounds before an aprroach, on 5 different occasions, he has to buy u a drink. If he takes more than 10 secounds and still approaches that still counts as one failure. This is simple, in bars its too complicated to do anything else.

retarded

So why do you think it is retarded? Please elaborate.

I cant even do 3 pushups, nevermind 10 or 20! I have found however that when there's a drink at stake i will always perform.

Okay, here's the issue with this.
What you're talking about is a hyper steroid psycho version of something called the 30 second game. In the 30 second game, you give the other dude a 30 count to approach and if they don't you hit them in the arm. Now and then you throw in little dares, like you have to approach like this etc.

The point of the 30 second game is to do 2 things:
1. Have fun fucking around with your mate
2. Get some momentum going
When it's done right it's hilarious, really fun and gets you going like a motherfuck.
But in my humble opinion the problems with the way you're doing it are:

1. 10 Seconds isn't long enough. Very often you aren't with 10 seconds of a decent looking girl, either in the club or on the street. Logistics alone will mean a 10 second countdown will have you doing a whole lot of push ups. Which brings me to...

2. The pushup thing. It's too serious, to like a socially masochistic point. The idea is to get yourself in social mode and feel daft and fun. By stopping to do push ups in public you're losing any momentum you could have been gaining. Also, if you can't stop the set for 2 mins then 20 push ups?? Some people are busy and can't chat forever, so what? By doing a bunch of pushups every time a set doesn't work out you are in effect punishing yourself for things beyond your control. As a general guideline I always try to stay in for at least a couple of minutes but I don't go hitting myself with a stick when I don't.

3. The '5 different occasions' idea. This will mean you're counting your 'failures' the whole night. This means if you start slow (which happens to everyone) it's hanging over you the whole night because you have to keep track of it. You really want stuff like that out of your head to have a fun productive night.

So yeah in summary this kind of thing can work, but this way is a bit cumbersome as far as momentum goes and has waaay too much of an emphasis on punishing 'failure' rather than having fun. That's my two cents anyway.

carrot and stick for best results, fail to open pushups, open success ...wank

I think this bit is fine. Less time to mince about in the corner. Hell if the girl's a tank so be it, it's all in the fun of the challenge.

Depends where you are I guess. I normally only ever do this shit in crowded as fuck London clubs, and it can be hard to move about. 30's always seemed about right in my experience.

And yeah, granted it's all fun, but I'd rather have a few more seconds than 10 to hit up a hot girl instead of whatever adjacent hambeast happens to be there.

It's Jackal's new idea that he has invented acording to his forum post.
I thought I'd post it here to see what other people's opinions are.
I too thought there is too much focus on the failure part.

These guys are going to have big arms and chests because they fail a lot!

One guy, who had huge AA, before this method - does about 1-5 sets a night or even lower, after this game 30-40 sets.

Read the whole post on the appropriate forum. Otherwise u r misleading people. It is one of many creative ideas. The EXPERIENCED guys do not need to bother with this.

You guys are missing the whole point. There is punishment as well as reward. Talk to girl a reward. Do not talk to girl YOUR wing is punished. YOU ARE NOT PUNISHED YOURSELF.

It is based on ancient Chinese Military Doctrine. Its similar to when one guy misbehaves in class the whole class is then punished. There is only an issue when the whole class is afraid of the class bully. I will not be restricted by social conditioning.

10 seconds - man or women, anymore more than that fear kicks in. It may sound crazy but I will not tolerate AA, anything else I can be patient with. Do not get me wrong I do provide a lot of encouragement and say nice things. However that side of me I like to keep in check.

In terms of the guys, they were happy with this method. As they had never approached so many sets before since they started.

I am not picking on people, but like Tyler Durden says, if you cannot approach any set at any given time on command, then you have serious work to do. I like this comment.

If you guys have any ideas to kill AA for DON JUAN provide solutions. I have exhausted all creative options.

The Bar Rules. Has not been field tested yet.

In future I will kindly ask, please provide a link if u want to quote me. I do not mind being judged, but being misquoted is quite unfair.

http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/...=asc&start=495