before I continue. I just wanted to say I'm number closing quite a bit lately. So thanks for helping me get back on track fellas. I needed it.

One thing that always seems to stump me though is the age thing. If she's a bit older, she'll turn it against you; also (more commonly) younger HBs will always try to use the "old man" card against you. Although I'm 27, I look 22-23 and for ths reason girls a lot younger often give IoIs, but when they find out my real age they run a mile, even with reasonably good game in my opinon. Any tips for keeping the fish on the hook?

thank you again

Never give a straight answer to anything you don't want to reveal (I've heard some guys argue never give a straight answer to a woman ever, which is over the top IMO)

...for you age fits in this category. Make her question a joke; ask her how she knew you looked old for your age. When she asks what you mean, say you're only 15, but she can't tell the bartender or they won't let you in anymore.

If you're not comfortable completely hiding your age from her, later tell her in a short story when she's much more attracted to you and you're building commonalities. Age difference won't matter as much then. Also tell it more as a story rather than a straight answer... makes it more engaging and meaningful.

he doesn't seem or mention being shy, he mentions they're blowing him out when he's saying his age. Either don't mention it, or if they ask don't give a straight answer and make it into a joke, or try and hold a solid tone like you say.

If he worked at a wal-mart or a mcdonald's or something and didn't want to mention that to the girl because they've been consistently brushing him off, would it be wrong to say that he's a butane lighter repairman just to get a laugh out of it, and earn a little bit more flirting? He's not being misleading or being shy about it, he's avoiding a problem that other girls have had with him and taking a negative interaction and turning it into a positive one showing that he can be funny.

I don't see any difference between the two.


...and like I said, if this is happening early in interactions before he can build enough attraction, then come back to the age difference once she's more comfortable around him later. He doesn't have to hide his age, but he doesn't have to comply to her request for an answer at that moment either.

27 is perfect age unless you're Amy Winehouse! All ages wiiling to fuck a 27 year old. Problem maybe in your head or girls are just being douches (maybe tell them that)

You need to get in there first and use it as a disqualifier e.g. "hey youve got really good genes, I bet your mum/older sister is really hot, you should arrange for us to hook up". Once they bite you keep laying it on with stuff like "not sure a young girl like you could cope with the pleasure an experienced man like me can dish out" etc.

BTW I'm nearly 20 years older than you so you need to get some sense of perspective.

its not to do with ur age... young girls like older guys, i fucked loads

why hide it, if she dusnt like it she can go fuck herself

seems like my points wer already mentioned!!

You be surprised how many young girls like older men. The logical fact of your age is less important than how she feels when she is with you. I understand totally because I had this problem when I first started. It’s a limiting belief, just like approaching. If it’s not issue for you it won’t be an issue for her. There are limits if you’re in your 50’s for fucks sake exercise some fucking decency bill wyman is not cool, neither is fucking 16 year old girls.

Age problem? What problem?

If she's inside a bar/club, she's over 18. Or looks it. Fuck, I'm probably going to hell.