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Default Advice help required - 11-11-2011, 12:58 AM

Yet another night yet another fucking blowout!!
This is the 7-8th girl ive nearly fucked and been blown out before i could.Man im bummed.She came over on tuesday all was fucking hunky dory,she stayed over,i played it cool started making out etc escalate boom top off.Then shes like im on!! So im like straight away no probs with a straight voice.As tbh i wasnt bothered.I still kept on getting her hot and horny tho haha tho she never played with me which again i wasnt 2 fussed as usually its quid pro quo right??
Anyways she texts me can u meet me after work,im like ok cool.Sraight away i know im getting flaked.Anyways her and her m8 are pissed and a bit stoned,which dont fuss me 2 much.Her m8s fuck buddys there 2.So im like cool ill just chill and play cards with em for a bit.After a half hour im fucking bored and hungry so im like im off.U coming back looking at her.Shes like can u come in the kitchen for a mo,im like ok.Shes like im still in love wid my ex ,straight away ,
my brain shuts of as i know the whole fucking speech already blah blah blah can we just friends.I was like yeh whatever and grabbed my bike and rode home.
Man im truly fucking sick of this shit.All i ever get is "im not over my ex" "Im in love with my ex" Your a cool guy but...." man what i gota do to get laid!!!
4 months of constantly spending all my spare time doing this shit.Why am i not getting a break thru?? How longs it take to get better than i am??!!
What can i do to get past that lay barrier i seem to have?!!
All round its been an awful month so far and u know fucking this chick would have been a welcome booster for me.
I wrote a poem that is based on a text i sent Alpha D earlier.I als put a different poem up on facebook about it,then promptly deleted it back off as it was pretty chode and wont change her mind will it?!
Dont gimme all that "mtfu" or "dont give a crap" stuff.Its just a poem to say exactly where i am and how i feel right now.All being well ill hopefully have picked myself up and dusted myself of....again!! By tommorow

Another day
another near fuck
another blow out
another your a nice guy but im still in love with my ex
another can we still be friends
another time i pretend im not hurt and pissed off
another time i cycle home gutted wondering what the fuck is wrong with me
another night i wont sleep thinking about it


Those who risk nothing, do nothing, achieve nothing,become nothing!!

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Default 11-11-2011, 05:00 AM

maybe you're coming off as a little bit too easy, and you're attracting girls who are just looking for a short term fling in between other guys and/or difficult relationships?

One thing I will say is if you have a gut feeling like you're going to get flaked out on, you should flake first and go do something else. Turn the tables... it'll hurt less for you, and suddenly this girl has to fit into your schedule, rather than the other way around.

Your value goes up, while hers goes down. And then you're certainly not needy.
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Default 11-11-2011, 07:59 AM

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Another day
another near fuck
another blow out
another your a nice guy but im still in love with my ex
another can we still be friends
another time i pretend im not hurt and pissed off
another time i cycle home gutted wondering what the fuck is wrong with me
another night i wont sleep thinking about it
omg lashings and lashings of carebear
this is your problem

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boom top off.Then shes like im on!! So im like straight away no probs with a straight voice
Gay
- you should have just unzipped your pants and pulled your cock out and put her hand on it
'im not, so you can have a play with this'

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Shes like im still in love wid my ex
were not getting married
- and just pull her in for a horny kiss

if she responds she responds - if she backs off, just eject from the venue not giving a shit

Quote:
I wrote a poem that
omfg i`ll pretend i didnt read this tripe


Make it Happen

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Default 11-11-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovefish View Post
Yet another night yet another fucking blowout!!
This is the 7-8th girl ive nearly fucked and been blown out before i could.Man im bummed.She came over on tuesday all was fucking hunky dory,she stayed over,i played it cool started making out etc escalate boom top off.Then shes like im on!!
IM TIRED OF SAYIN THIS!!!!


STOP ESCALATING!!!!! FUCKING STOP IT! there is no such thing, THESE WOMEN ARE ON DATES WITH U, U DONT NEED TO TRICK THEM INTO FUCKING U!!!!

SORT

IT

OUT!

right lovefish, de me a favour mate, inbox me ur number ye

this needs sortin out... u do things like a 17 year old.


(do it on facebook)


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Default 11-11-2011, 11:07 AM

It sounds like your desperate to get laid which won't help your cause. Maybe you need to get your mind off of that so you can chill. You have a sleep issue it would seem, as do I - again over-active mind questioning and trying to sort out the pain (but making it worse). I don't have cure for you but can tell you stuff that has helped me in past when feeling bad:

Gym
Dance class
Martial arts class
Meditation class
Setting challenge and focusing on that eg I've done various running races in past.

None of the above may be suitable, but may at least give inspiration.

I find once my mind is sorted other things sort themselves.

Ok girl wise, once you've chilled out a bit you probably want to focus on that for still. Again I can only tell you stuff that helped me. To do so I recommend reading my 5 a day threads (I think I was in a similar mindset when I started those and is the most documented part of my life girl wise). Again may not be suitable, but will at least show you a guy who was feeling like you and did something about it!

I have a pretty good life now. Not quite in place want to be, but a lot better than I was. If any of my experiences can help you that would be fantastic.
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Default 11-11-2011, 02:51 PM

Most girls will end up ditching a guy, not on the grounds of what they truly think of a guy but on the grounds of what everyone else thinks of the guy. Your perception to a woman may be good but her friends and family have a much stronger impact on who she is and what she likes. So with much research I conclude that it’s more important how you are perceived to people in her surroundings than actually how she perceives you.

Are all of these blow outs?????? They aren’t blowouts; again what a woman says and what she thinks are two different things. It will have a totally different emotional impact on you if you learn how to always have the last word, always have a better answer, always be fucking around with woman, always mixing up what you say, unpredictability! You will find after a while woman will not refuse you as they won't be able to come out on top. This is a lot easier said than done, it’s something that gets built into your personality over time.

So what was your exact response when she said she's still in love with her ex??? This will stop happening in future if you are able to apply what’s being said. Even if she was still in love with her ex she wouldn’t want to let it get in the way of her pursuing you.

For now however if you get blown out again (as you say) then talk bullocks back to her. ITS NEVER WHAT YOU SAY ITS HOW YOU SAY IT, YOU CAN SAY THE CHODEIST OF WORDS BUT BE PERCEIVED AS THE KING OF FUCKING ORGASMLAND.

"omfg your such a bitch, I came over here expecting a blow job". (in a jokingly fasion of course)
"awwww cute, there was me thinking you were just afraid of sex, ok i understand now, come here and give your loving uncle a cuddle".

Treat woman like little girls, who you will just dominate over and over again. There not anything special, convey this in your persona
GOOD LUCK MAN


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Default 11-11-2011, 03:11 PM

Lovefish you’re just too nice mate and ultimately no challenge to women, you’re getting chicks but still behaving like the nice guy.

I’m busy but I hate to see a brother getting a raw deal from pussy.

Stop being a nice guy you’ll be amazed how easy it is once you tap into it.

I’ll never forget the way it started for me, at my height I was out 4 – 5 times a week and getting dates and numbers and finding it difficult to manage, I’d forget to meet some girl or forget to call another. What happen next really amazed me the girls that I ignored because I thought I’d rung them or stood up because I got them mixed up were the ones that were now texting me 10 times a day and inviting themselves to dates.

I bought half dozen books on ‘bad boys’ and ‘why women love jerks’ etc, I’d recommend you read at least one book on the subject the psychology is fascinating.

All women say they want a nice guy but the reality is so very different.

Think of it like Tesco’s nice guys are on a girls shopping list going in, but they are not in the shopping bag coming out.

Here’s a typical scenario for you. ‘I don’t know what it was. He was nice and I thought we would hit it off, but he had nothing that sparked my interest and there wasn’t any chemistry between us. The date was boring. If there is one thing that gets two people interested in each other is the “chemistry” between them. If there is one thing that keeps people coming back to each other again and again, it’s chemistry. Even after people are married they cheat and go back to former lovers because of what? You guessed it – chemistry. Well, kept in its simplest form, my definition of chemistry is what I remember from school which is a reaction between two mixtures in the experiment. If two things were mixed together and didn’t get a reaction, we wrote down -- “NR” for “No Reaction”. Make sure you stand out enough in her mind to trigger a “reaction” by being spontaneous, unpredictable, funny, adventurous, cocky and even a bit outrageous. You will be anything but boring and you will at least have fun in the moment.

What is the opposite of love? If you said – “hate”, you are wrong, the opposite of love is disinterest.

Start taking charge don’t give options or give reasons to cancel, "I'm going to see ABC film at 9:30 tonight, are you coming? The focus of the date is not her, it’s the film and if the film is your focus, she will do her best to distract you and try and keep the focus on her. Even if she cannot make it to the movie for whatever reason, you have given her the impression that seeing a film is more important than seeing her and you will proceed to call the next girl in your little black book and put her name at the bottom of the list because she had her chance. You are the one in demand and she has the opportunity to have a good time.

Today is the day Lovefish, today you stop being a nice guy. Try it you’ve got fuck all to lose.

Stop letting girls play a game of cat and mouse with you leading you around by your dick, making you chase her, while she finds truth in the old female saying: “I’ll let him chase me, till I catch him.”

Make the bitch chase you and the best way to do that is...

Stop going down the path to the destination of being an approval seeking wimp that will be wrapped around her finger by the end of the evening.

Stop returning all phone calls/texts

Cancel dates of your choice with or without warning or previous notice.

Stop being predictable, tell her you’re going bowling then take her to zoo instead or whatever mix it up. Be spontaneous!

Finally, stop being nice and desperately running around to the first woman who gives you a hint of sex. (Read that last sentence again and let it sink in.)

Lets replay the scene again.

Anyways she texts me can u meet me after work, I don’t reply, she text me again can we meet after work, another hour passes I replied ‘no’.

You wouldn’t have walked into ‘lets be friends speech’ she would be thinking wtf guys don’t say ‘no’ to me and maybe dumped you anyway but you’ve lost nothing if you’d done this from the start things would have been very different.

If you’re a cocky PUA or just a RSD Clone be congruent with it you can’t be slick with women then end up begging them for sex it’s simply not congruent with who you are trying to be.

You don’t need to go as far as being a prick with women although it works, just being a challenge is enough, use the word ‘No’ much more, don’t agree to everything, take charge we are going you’re coming etc...

...and stay away from stoned girls, these fucked up low self esteem bitches trying to escape from the world are not worth time and energy unless you’re looking for a smoking buddy.

Hey good luck mate

Well, it wouldn’t be any fun if the women just fell over on their backs with their legs in the air now would it! – Cocktail I think although don’t quote me on that.


Don’t think about rejection shouldn’t even enter your head, don’t think about it, just do it, no hesitations. Talk to her.

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Default 15-11-2011, 12:47 AM

Thanks to all for the advice eerrr forget about the poem "cringe"
Yes i am absolutley way 2 nice and i have no idea how the hell to stop doing it its like its on auto pilot.Im am trying to be more forceful/manly/demanding but it does still feels very un natural at present.
Up shot of that chick was she was out with her ex the night after totally oblivious to me.Now ive had time to calm down a bit i am less fussed.
Wow awsome post Knave!! Like u say do i really want to be with a pisshead stoned girl with a kid!!...nope!!
Also with regard to you going out loads Knave im currently unable to get out more than 2-3 times a week as my job and the fact that my town sucks and very few are out apart from weekends,so im giving serious thought to a move to a big city asap!
Phil ive pmd u my number.
I am going to do my best to try to take as much of this advice onboard.As well as stopping!!! taking knockbacks so fucking personally.Ive realized i have been taking every blow out like its a personal attack on my character and who i am.Rather than getting frustrated and breaking shit, i should just accepting im not where i want to be yet.
yeh Snake ill re read the 5 a day threads ok bud
Im sure one day im going to re read that post and think omg did i really write that!! In fact im already starting to think that


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