Thanks in advance for your thoughts chaps.

Okay before I continue, to clarify I work in an adult language school and I am EXPRESSIVELY PERMITTED TO SOCIALISE WITH STUDENTS, so please don't give me the "don't hit on students speech" they're fair game, and my boss encourages me with grls students!

I work as an English teacher in Rome... there's a highly attractive HB9 Italian girl student. She's 18 and she is (or was) very shy. She has a boyfriend. All I know is he liked her for ages and she was telling her friends she didn't like him.

Anytime I've worked with her in the past,she was always very timid, but yesterday I had her solo for a lesson and I was teasing her, playing around and she was teasing me right back. I asked how her mum and grandma were (I went out with a group of people, which included her one time and I had the chance to meet her mum and grandma briefly one evening). She asked about my family and she was messing around. I said (SORRY! I know this was a small error) that I always see her on BF messenger and sorry I didn't send her a message (although busy guy might be DHV actually). All went very well. Fun lesson, noticed some courtship gestures, but given her shyness it wasn't anything overly obvious.

I just spoke to her on facebook messenger, bit of teasing but also quite cute, she said the lesson yesterday was "wonderful" and then she had to go out, and she said "bye my favourite teacher"... do you think she's trying to disqualify me and stick me in the friend zone? or is that an IoI?

Well first off, only go down this road if you're genuinely ok about shagging another bloke's missus. Personally, it's a bit of a grey area, but you need to make that decision and take responsibility for it.

Second off, you're in a risky position in that you're this girl's teacher. If you go for it and shag her, happy days. If not, there will be consequences, possibly serious. My advice would be to just chill out and not force anything. Keep flirting with her, inviting her out and spending time with her, and if it's going to happen it'll happen.

Also, out of interest, what route did you go down to end up teaching English in Rome? I've been trying to get a TEFL job in Europe for months (mostly France, probably where I'm going wrong).

She's Italian, take it as neither, she's just being nice. The fact that she's got a boyfriend along with the possibility of her not being a bitch are the more likely dis-qualifiers.

@Breaker Interesting perspective and thank you for your feedback. The only thing I'll say si that given her shy disposition I wasn't expecting the compliment, and my gut instinct tells me she doesn't say things like that often, hence why I consider it possible that it's an IoI. But in any event, it is indeed true that she has a boyfriend.. but I will add that she got with him very quickly after separating from her previous ex and I feel it was at least partially a "rebound romance". I heard that he was chasing her for years in the most AFC possible. I feel he is at least partially an "orbiter". Thank you

@Blanca... I have a lot of fun with students, both in an out of work. We played truth or dare in English for an after hours lesson with wine and aperitives one time.Many of my students are of an eligable age to date and therefore I do not feel it is a problem to date. However, you are correct in that rejection or breaking up with a girl that was previously a relationship can be very uncomfortable. For this reason, when asked if I would hit on a student in work in the truth or dare game, I responded that I might, but the girl would need to make it slightly more obvious than usual that she fancies me, as being turned down and then having to work with her would be extremely diffcult (although I did soften it with a DHV saying that I've only asked out two girls and eleven have asked me or requested my number, which is totally true). I would only ask a girl out if I was 90% sure the answer would be ye, and I made this clear! I once had to do an oral exam with a girl who dumped me for another, which was very challenging. I basically behaved as a robot and kept all conversation relevant to the exam. There have been no problems with my work through dating, only a few uncomfortable moments.

With regards your question for me, as it's not related to pick up I sent you a private message and we can continue to discuss it there

I think for the most part your advice is correct. So I'll keep her in mind as a target, but I won't point the missile just yet.

Do you, or anyone else for that matter, have any advice on picking up in my situation? consider the following please:

*I do not need to cold approach and I don't have a bitch shield to worry about. After experimenting a bit I conclude however that in the case of 8/9/10 girls it is still necessary to Neg a little early on (also to make it clear that she isn't going to be treated any differently from other students, which attractive Italian women expect... in italy any girl that is HB7 1/2 and up has "princess syndrome")

*I am highly successful at getting the girl aroused WITHOUT making it look like I'm coming on to her, very often in oral individual lessons I can have her asking me questions in English about stuff not related to the lesson at all (girlfriend/ family/ why in Italy etc). I get a lot of non verbal IoIs through body language also.

It seems however, that whilst she leaves in an aroused/ interested state (high buying temperature in Tyler Durden terminology), she completely forgets it later on in the day if I start talking to her on facebook messenger for example (almost all my students are friends on facebook, all ages and genders). There is nowhere near the same level of interest out of work in some cases.

Can anyone offer any constructive advice for classroom game? (AGAIN I REPEAT, I AM PERMITTED TO SOCIALISE, SPARE ME THE SPEECH ABOUT NOT HITTING ON STUDENTS. I AM ALLOWED, I CAN, AND I WILL. I HAVE LOADS OF HBS PUT IN FRONT OF ME AT WORK AND IT WOULD BE A BLOODY WASTE NOT TO. IN ONLY TRY TO ESCALATE IN PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL CLASSES).

touch her on the leg

@max..... with my leg under the table? that might be a nice way to test the water actually...

Thank you.... however, one thing i'm contemplating is that whilst I have alpha status in the classroom, perhaps that might be the reason the interest doesnt always transplant outside of class. Any thoughts?

With regards the HB of this post, I think I might test the water with the leg under the table thing.

Stop over-thinking this situation and either ask her out or leave her alone.

Personally because she has a boyfriend and there are plenty of other girls in Italy I would be inclined to move on until you find somebody more appropriate or she becomes single.

However if you are having 1-2-1 lessons with here the other guys are right, pick up your kino to the point where you are obvious about your intentions without being pervy - allowing the touch to linger for longer than is socially necessary but not grabbing boob/ass etc.

Thanks guys, I'll keep everyone posted. She's coming for a lesson next week I think

u really dont want ideas from midas, the guy is a crazyball! nice guy... but a bit

"Cuckoo"