Girls R Horrible!
 

So last night i went out, see a girl, thought.... Ye i defo would... big tits little waist belter legs dancer.

so we havin a flirt etc all night...

so i said

Me: whats happenin then?

her: What do you mean?

Me: Are we goin to mine or yours in a bit

Her: thats not a very romantic way of puttin it...

Me: Ok, Hows about... Your comin to mine END OF!

Her: Oh i like that...

so anyway we go back and in the taxi on the way back she says

"look i gotta tell u i have a fella"

now... correct me if im wrong but shouldnt she have kept that to herself.

i was already geared up... so we went back, i fucked her... good night of sex...

after.... she cried!

WTF!!!!


"i cant beleive i did that to him i love him so much, i dont even know why i did... its not me, i just really liked u i cant beleive i cant explain it was like instant chemistry...i have done this i feel so guilty"

(im afraid that instant chemistry my dear is just flirting, very good flirting which i often discuss with other boys in my gang on the internet.)

girls r untrustworthy END OF!!! i mean she never mentioned a fella till way late on, which means she clearly had intent otherwise it would have been mentioned..

if a woman has a fella & doenst bring him up... she is game as a badger.


fit tho! defo worf it

Your a bad bad man.

Similar thing happened to me last month, on one of the very rare occasions I get same night close. That should have told me something. She didn’t tell me but her boyfriend rang on her house phone and she answered it!!! Then starts telling him much she misses him, unfucking believable I probably should mention that the top half of her is naked at this point.

What gets me is they must realise that if they want a serious relationship they just destroyed any hope of that, or maybe they don’t in which case that makes it somewhat easier to understand

I met this Spanish girl. She was having a casual fling with this guy I know, who has a gf and is a serial womanizer anyway, so I had no quarms about taking her off him.

He was trying to kiss her all night and she kept giving him the cheek and then following me around everywhere I went. Then she asked me to take her back to mine, so I did and then I fucked her.

Then next day when she was leaving, she told me, "Don't tell anyone, because I have a bf back in Spain and he will be coming over to visit."

Apparently she owned up to her bf about the other fellow but I'm sure she didn't tell him about me since I have sat and had a beer with them both since then.

He is quite a bit older than her and less attractive, I wonder if that's got anything to do with it.

.....ಠ_ಠ

From what I've noticed, women don't really follow principles in the same way that men do (not that all men have principles of course); they just do what they feel. If they are faithful it is probably because they are in love, or the fella has them under the thumb, not because it is the right thing to do.

I thought you were dead set against this kind of thing.

yea defo I'm in n open relationship (its complicated as fuck) she said she can't fuck cos she's so in love with me which shows that love is how you get a bird to be faithful.

I think this thread could be "People R Horrible". I mean how many guys do you know who do the same thing?

I think the fact that we promote ethics and self-development on top of PU here makes a big difference to the way we treat girls (and guys and people in general) seeming as at one point a lot of us were AFCs or Chodes and empathize.

what's all this we talk I hate all the moralistic arguments it just gets in the way. Everyone knows fucking with peoples lives is wrong. I just wanna get laid If I wanted to argue morals I'd go to church.

High probability that the BF was an insecure chode who is shite in the sack. That doesn't make him a bad person or deserving of a cheating gilfriend but ... a very attractive highly sexual woman will always be on the hunt for other options unless he mans the fuck up at some point.

Everyone is always evaluating those around them, it's not possible to stop doing it. That however does not mean everyone contemplates cheating, or goes ahead with it.

I think it's important to point out (which a couple have mentioned) that this is the behaviour of some but not all. The belief that this is how everyone is like is could cause a pretty quick decent into hating women and misogynism.

If you think someone is horrible, don't fuck them, have higher standards.

I'm not saying we are some kind of holier than thou saints, far from it, just that in most of the advice here people offer a decent and realistic stance on being a well-grounded sociable person.

I agree the advice on this site is good cos you get the harsh reality and peeps discuss other issues such as depression and anxiety which is helpful. I think pick up has improved my life a lot because I'm seeing the world for what it is.

You ever read "In a different voice: psychological theory and women's development" by Carol Gilligan?

It's heavy going, but in it she describes the developmental differences between boys and girls in social situations that involve moral/ethical obstacles during childhood. It makes for uneasy reading to learn how different the genders are in some ways.

PS

sounds good I love head fuck stuff

no im dead set against chasin women who have guys, not women who i have been hunting for all night & she tells me on the taxi ride home...

she had already built my expectations up for a top session. so im afraid my morals have a line & its my male need.

had known she had a fella, she would have never felt the "chemistry" she felt..

she kept askin me if i felt it too, i was thinkin "thats the chemistry all girls i like feel when i meet them" not what i said tho i just said... i dont really do talkin abar feelins ye so we shall just let that go

... felt a bit bad tbf.

shut the fuck up, r u a woman, sometimes u just say shit u would LOVE to actually aspire to but its crap.

if angelina jolie threw it on ur toes, ud fuck her

knowin full well she was cheatin on brad pitt & fucked jennifer anistons life.

Phil. I believe I mentioned before that my mum owns a makeup school. It's part of their house. I grew up with models around me and looks mean little to me. A good looking girl is a good looking girl and anyone without a weight problem is capable of that with nothing but the right style, effort and grooming. Everything after standard goodlooking/not is then determined by other factors. Factors that raise and lower their attractiveness based on my opinion of them. A horrible person is a horrible person, I couldn't get it up for someone like that, completely unattractive.

If you believe this so much you're welcome to send anyone you want to try and seduce me. It would be money wasted.

If you have a test then shoot. Integrity testing could be fun.

thats like sayin a girl who works in the gym doesnt like men with hot bodies...


its not an argument, ur just tryng to make ur argument sound justified..

if ur male, then ur primary attraction is appearance. ur not the one special man on the planet.

people instinctively go for aesthetics

we are wired to do so, because good looks means healthy babies.

Test me. Your belief that aesthetics are the be all and end all of men's attractive judgements is ridiculous.

looks aren't everything but you can't wank over a personality

you're not going to approach a girl unless you are physically attracted to her first... then, once you're talking to her, you might start giving a shit about her personality.

talk about killing an argument off in one line

Men are attracted to looks first and foremost FACT, now Jay seriously man stop talking out of your arse its starting to make you look bad.

I love this Thread, i have a couple of points to make:

1)Phil you came across as a high level Male that had much higher value than her boyfriend, she got caught up in a wave of feelings and fantasy from her 'normal' life
The reality hit her afterwards after sex that the fantasy was just that a fantasy and she had to return to her normal life.
i would have felt really bad with her crying on me, id put my councelling head on and try and help her out and how she feels.

2)from the guys point of view i think no matter how you dress things up and what your morals are, there are certain circumstances that will make you deviate, KNOWONE is perfect
I always try and stay away from anytype of morality preach because ive proved to myself time and time again through others and MY OWN experience - people are full of shit and if the right buttons get pressed anyones capable of anything--including me.
somtimes you are just driven by your hormones -- like when you are ultra horny and you end up fucking somone only to cum and think WTF am i doing here and you cant wait to get out of there and get them out of your house.
maybe all the above is true of girls?

Jay - part of me would love for me and Phil to come down there and try and tempt you into the dark side of the force!

There has to be a natural process for separating high value females from shit low value bf's, otherwise humans would die out. Survival of the fittest wins everytime.

rubbish... if that were the case we would all look the same. You're sounding like a nazi Maxemillion. If survival of the fittest wins everytime, why are we not all perfect by now? Human beings are full of defects, more so than any other animal on the earth.

I've actually been seeing loads of weird evidence to the contrary lately too. Me and my mate were just talking about it the other day. There is this tall blond Polish bird that we all quite fancied and she decided to settle with the most unlikely guy imaginable, fat, greasy hair, dodgy moustache, slippery type.

Another German guy we know with a huge gut on him and pale pasty features, real dork too, introduced us to his Austrian gf... and she was fucking smoking hot, I nearly fell over!

Then I saw my ex gf out with her new bf and was quite satisfied to see that she has downgraded to some crusty with dreadlocks, squinty eyes, and crooked teeth.

Human genetics are so weird as well, precisely for the fact that survival of the fittest is no longer top priority, that you get whole families that look completely mixed. Have you ever noticed that you may get a family of say four sisters (same mother and father) and only one or two of them are hot and the others are minging?

I know a family like this and they are strict Irish Catholic and the mother and father really love each other, so there is no cheating going on to explain it. One of the daughters is like a 9, the others 5 or 6 maximum, one of who is a lesbian. Also one of their sons is gay. The other son is very athletic, ripped six pack on him, without doing anything but suffers from bi-polar disorder.

Although no doubt it comes into the equasion, simple survival of the fittest is no longer a satisfactory explanation for human kind.

I love the retardedness of this "looks first and foremost argument".

If anyone wants to point out where I said looks don't matter at all feel free. What I said was that looks don't matter at all past the point of she's good looking/she's not.

We will all look at a girl and will think yeah, she's physically attractive..... or not

Past this, looks don't matter at all, personality matters. Personality becomes the judgement of whether you want to spend more time around x person or more time around y person. You become less or more attracted based on this, ergo she is become less or more attractive. (not physically, in your head - there's a difference between being physically attractive and being attractive overall)

I bet every guy here has an ex who they thought was the dog's bollocks when they got with them but they fucking hate them so much now that she's "ugly" to you despite not changing physically at all.

Women do the same thing too, everyone does, attracted physically at first, other stuff becomes more important second though. It's just an eye catcher.

Now, if you're willing to stick your dick in someone you think is horrible I'd question whether you've got a few issues going on Phil. Why would you do that? Guys might be looking to get laid but unless they're misogynistic dicks only out for themselves then I would generally say that they're not just out for themselves on their one night stands, it's about her enjoyment too, it's about sharing some fun together. People enjoy giving someone else pleasure that they like... With that in mind I'm pretty sure nobody enjoys giving pleasure to people they think are "horrible". So either you didn't really think she was all that horrible and weren't bothered by it or you used her for your own self gratification and didn't really want her to enjoy herself because she's horrible.

That or you forced yourself through the making her enjoy herself bits on a point of etiquette, which is a bit "wtf" also. You'd have to have some low self respect to feel a need to force yourself to do something like that.

Easiest action? Don't stick it in someone you think is horrible. Otherwise you're a misogynist out for purely their own self gratification.

And would the world stop turning if he was? would it matter if he was and he did?, would he go home and cry about it?
would a starving orphan in Africa die because of this?

Its not for you or i to Judge, its his life and he will judge himself

Perhaps if Phil wants to f*ck girls that aren't 'horrible', he might consider means testing them a little more past the she's fit and she know's it stage.

It's for you and I to judge all we want actually. I'm perfectly within my right to decide whether someone else is a dick or not. As of yet I haven't judged either way and have left it open because nothing is conclusive and things change when they give their own interpretations. To say that it's not for anyone to judge is wrong though.

We can all judge however we want and in fact we SHOULD. Without the social pressure of moral rights and wrongs we'd all still be killing each other for whatever we wanted or needed.

yeah but without truly knowing somone its easy to make fly comments about people and once you get to know them realise there is a good person in there and a completely different base reason for how they acted --that statments nothing to do with phil btw

we all do stuff that im sure seems just now but in 10 years and somtimes even in a week down the line we think OMG what a tit i was-- i do anyway, im sure you will look back in 10 years at some of your ideals and think what a douche

why am i assed about a girls personality if i just wanna fuck her???

i think some of the guys here (you included) pretend to make all these moral tick boxes in order to justify why ur not gettin as much fit pussy as you would like

coz lets get it right, uber fit women are cunts to bad lookin men unless they are in their social circle

I think that's just you trying to find reasoning for a mindset that you don't have and don't want to believe people have.

Immoral people tend to try and believe that everyone around them is just like them but pretending not to be. It helps them justify their actions as socially acceptable. Everyone would be dicks if they just stopped pretending.

Another sweeping generalisation. Not true.

i know people dont have this mindset, i believe people buy into their own shit... but EVERYONE has their price!!


who is the judge of morality??? you??? dont think so... i dont think my actions wer justified, i probably should have not shagged her, but then again she probably shouldnt have come back...

people are out for themsleves.. and unless it in some way or form benfits them

they wont do it.

No Phil. Everyone doesn't have their price. If this were the case it would be possible for somebody to get anyone. It's not.

Right and wrong are right and wrong. Morality is objective.

Pointing out that she did something wrong doesn't justify doing something wrong yourself, it's just deferring from the point. She's a stupid horrible person, I agree. I would have thought you'd have better standards than to be sleeping with people who you think are horrible though Phil.

Not going to argue this, that doesn't mean that what they do is also immoral or doesn't benefit others though so I'm not sure why you're saying it as a part of your argument.

Is it just me or has anyone else wanted to fuck somone that annoys them but is sexually attractive from a lustful point of view-- maybe cum and them slapped them across the face.
Probably coming from a power dominerring point of view

I think you lot from the moralistic argument side have forgotten that phil decided to fuck her and she told him in the cab. Now forgive me if I'm wrong but that means that to change his original decision would be very difficult because once a decision is made the brain avoids changing that decision to save energy and time. hence why even when shown proof of being wrong peeps remain in cults.

It's kind of funny cos it seems me and jay are like exact opposites. I became less moralistic and judgemental over time and he's became more.