Ok, so i see alot of stuff on here about LEVELS! and i am a firm believer that looking good is VERY IMPORTANT!

i want to put somethin forward tho.

it seems most guys on this forum have a fair knowledge of psychology, of social etiquette and the ability to be just generally cool around people.

a guy mentioned that a girl said "im way out of your league"

If a girl is to say or imply this... ask her this question

"Ok, so apart from how u look, what exactly gives you that status of OUT OF MY LEAGUE.." for instance i could follow with

"im successful... ambitious, i produce music... i dj, socially im top of the food chain.. i dont do anythin unless i want to, i dont take shit and im pretty much in control of everythin in my life, all of the time... have u got anythin to match that"

now ...as most stuck up there own asses girls will be their primary function is for the weekend, nails eyelashes etc... whos hobbies entail goin the gym and generic CV stuff.

so essentially they are basing there status on LOOKS ALONE.

"if they didn't have their looks... what league would they be in???

and there for you can say,.."on the grand scale of things unless u come back with a pretty good answer... i think that makes me out of ur league!


i suppose this could be a question posed to them girls

.. "do you believe in Leagues"

and put this exact point to them!

we all here looks aside are pretty much out of most girls leagues, women are pretty much mindless and moronic and men are pretty much better at EVERYTHIN than women.. even cooking!! .. and do not have the inclination that we have to gain social greatness.(well only a small percentage)

So fuck em!

keep this in mind from now on guys!

we are all out of all of their leagues coz we are COOL AS FUCK!!

Totally agree.

I only got told "I'm out of your league" once by some woman a number of years ago in a bar and without thinking I exploded with a big fancy monologue along the lines of "I'm a fitness trainer on the coaching squad of a Premiership football team, I take home 6 figures a year, am a talented performing musician with a great circle of friends, my family is amazing and unlike you I'm a friendly and compassionate person who's actually worth knowing and spending time with. You may think you're hot now, but what will you have at 50? Enjoy your average life", and walked off.

She actually found me later in the night and apologised. I f-closed her that night. Great success.

Totally agree man

I don't think there's any need to get a superiority complex to tackle this. Like when handed a 'rejection', you've got to have the mindset that this girl doesn't know anything about you, so is only gonna be able to make a snap judgement (about the way you act/look/speak). Sure you can throw some brags her way to satisy her shallow opinion of you, but what's the point.

To be frank, a girl that says that would set off alarm bells in my head, as I'd assume she was only interested in impressing strangers by having a footballer dj with a porsche (who incidentally goes dogging) on her arm. But then showboating to random people's not really my cuppa.

Having said that I am better at cooking

its not to do with rejection, im not that assed... its knowing yourself that it dont matter what she says.. the brag isnt a necessary part of the post, its just somethin to bear in mind when approaching women... that you are out of their league!

Yeah

Admittedly, I ranted at her like that before I knew any PUA stuff. These days I'd react differently. Something along the lines of

*Look her up and down*
*Raise one eye-brow and look a little disgusted*
"Really? You think so? I doubt that"

Did someone mention psychology

It really comes down to perception. In order to perceive someone is out of your league you have to have a very good good perception of how others see yourself to base this argument .

Unless you're looking for a certain criteria say looks or level of wealth, which is different.

Its an ambiguous statement at best, any girl that pulls this shit is seriously insecure.

Fuck with a girls head when she comes out with 'I can do better' line
'no you can't you have small tits, no good looking guys gonna want to be with you when he could do better.

Her: "I'm out of your league"
You: "Yeah, at first I thought we might be in the same league, but you saying that just got you relegated"

This is all she needs to know.

Fkin Love it