Hi guys,

I want to apologize for my poor English. I am french

So I need your advices ; I met 2 weeks ago a charming girl. And we already have made 2 dates (perhaps it wasn't dates for her). During these dates I did not progress at all (zero kiss). I know its not good signs !

So during our last date (last saturday), I really tried hard to impress her and planned a program with a comic show to begin. After the show I proposed her to drink something in a cool bar but she told me she must meet friends and asked me if i want to join.
So I joined them and It was a big mistake. One of a guys was also targeting her.

During the drink, she was talking with the guy so in the beginning I tried to be the alpha and I discussed with her friends (all her friends guys and girls). But I thought if i ignore her for a moment she will try to attract my attention. It wasn"t the case.

So since this party (last saturday), I called her once she didn't pick my call and after that I met her on internet and she didn't answer to my message.

Seriously do you think its over. I need you advices to attract her again if its possible. I am not usually the guy who insist with a girl but she is not like the others because she is "the girl"
I was thinking to wait 2 days before calling her again but I think that you must have better advices for me.

Thank you again for your advices

Hmm, you have a complicated situation there.

Your real mistake was not to do anything during the first two 'dates'. It's too easy to slip into the "friend-zone" if you don't make your intentions clear.

I'll be honest, I think what you did when you went out with her and her friends was about right. It's what I would have done. Got her friends on your side and showing her that you can have fun and be friendly without her. The introduction of the other guy isn't ideal, but bear in mind that women usually sign off all big relationship decisions with their closest friends first.

It's only been a couple of days since you went out, so don't worry too much about not speaking. Whatever you do, don't become needy. I know you said that you think that she's "the girl"; but in reality, would "the girl" that you really want not get back to you? I know mine would answer me, because it's a trait I look for that's important.

Personally, I'd either call her later and if she doesn't answer leave a voicemail, or drop her a text saying something along the lines of "hey, it was fun the other night. Your friends are cool, but we should meet up again sometime this week (without them, lol). When are you free?"

That way, you're being indirectly direct (if you get me). You've made it clear that you want to meet again with just the two of you, but you've taken the pressure off and left the ball in her court.

Remember one thing though. No matter how it goes "there's always six more around the corner".

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You sound confused as to how you should be ‘acting’ and how you want girls to see you. You are also expecting instant results trying different tactics all within the space of one drink! You need to start thinking about just who you are and what suits you, not copy what the gurus say ‘work’ for them. You are unique and there are girls everywhere who will really dig this, particularly if you play on these traits.

So you meet the girl twice for non-dates and ‘she’s the one’. Come on. What if she turns out to be crap in bed? Or perhaps she is f*cking selfish? You don’t know any of these things yet. There is no ‘one’. You might learn over time that you grow to love a girl, and this might build into something solid. It seems to me your rash thought process in this matter is down to your lack of belief that you, Truemister, have do and can have a choice in girls. It’s time to get out more and meet more girls my friend. Forget about chasing this one girl and start today.

Sounds like this set is a fail. Just be pleased you approached and managed the basics well and build on it next time. If the other guy did any game that worked, learn from what he did. I do loads of similar sets where for a while there;s attraction in her eyes and its going good, then the energy falls off and after a while she's not that interested and goes off with someone else. Its all about practice to keep that momentum rolling. Kino instantly always (touch her).

Thanks all for your answers.
First of all, BCB your advices are cool, I will try to wait for 1/2 days and text her to leave the ball in her court.

Maxemillion , it wasn't so simple because when I met her first one of her friends told me that she was in a long relationship with someone for 4 years and she broke up recently.
She also discussed about it but i manage to change the subject. So I tried to act as the cool guy who is not putting pressure on her. (perhaps it was a mistake )

Nova you are right when you say that its too soon to say "she is the girl". I am not trying to act cool but I am not usually acting this way. I am more confident. But I don t know why I tried to impress her and perhaps I lower my guard and I was touched by her kindness. (I know its pathetic !)

Thanks all for your advices !

Or perhaps she would rather steer clear of getting into any type of relationship with a guy just yet.

I was also thinking about this, so I Have 2 options :

1- I try to forget her if she is not ready for a relationship

2- I manage to get her even if she is not ready
Hum ! The seconde option is more attractive for me but its quite a big challenge for me

Thank you again !

Other than sex, what benefits do you think the second option has for not just you but her?

Thank you guys for your answers.
Even if I am pretty down I will manage to move forward. Whats dont kill you make you stronger ; right ?

BCB I really appreciated your advices. Thanks guy !

Fuck her mate instead