Hey guys, so I'm new to the whole game and everything, and I'm sure you've seen this post a million times before, but i could really use some help.

I seem to have absolutely no killer instinct when it comes to chicks at all, although im comfortable talking to them and making contact (hugging, holding hands etc) I just have no idea how to read signals or how to build any kind of attraction and I could really use some help.

I'm currently stuck on a girl atm that I think there's potential, but I'm very rapidly sliding into the friend zone if I'm not there already. What do you guys recommend? We've been hanging out these last 2 weekends and she's always leaning on me and hugging me and stuff, yet occasionally she'll say little things that seem like she's discouraging me from pursuing anything further. Shit, tonight she even invited me in for some food after we were hanging out and we just sat on her bed for an hour or 2 chatting before she said "You're a nice guy sometimes, but i'm really tired" and I just left.

Where am I going wrong? any suggestions welcome, and sorry for the big pile of self pity here lol

(1) Women are annoying. Personally I like the sarge concept of doing meet to close in one night because to some extent its simpler and less confusing. Once you know them for a while theres more ambiguity about whether anything will ever happen. Not had loads of experience but (2) Be prepared for her to spaz out and disown you as you try to escalate friend zone to sex-partner status. Worth the risk tho totally.
(3) Girls dont fuck the nice guy. Lead her reality and get sexual. Go direct at some point during the laughing together where you show intent. tell her she's cute or gorgeous in a confident way then kino. dont say sexy it can scare girls. tease her, project a positive non-needy vibe. (4) Always have it in your mind that if this girl isnt interested you could pull a different one at any time. Dont project feelings like u need something from her, she can enjoy u if she wants but u dont care if she doesnt.

You have too much invested in this girl for you to ever come out ontop and for you to ever swing it into a sexual frame (unless maybe you both get drunk) IMO

Start looking for other girls, once you have a few in your life you will stop worrying so much about what she thinks and you will start dictating the terms.

What he says

Scamp

To me this says 'why the hell hasn't he made a move yet, we've been sat here an hour'.

Forget about 'building attraction' and 'reading signals'. All you'll get is mixed intepretations and become scared to make any real moves for fear of what she'll think or say. Take some risks. It'll make you feel good after.

She probably doesn't even think your interested mate. If a bird invites you in to sit on her bed, in my mind she wants to get drilled. Follow your insincts man, flirt with her and take the piss a bit you know pump her emotions up.

If the situation is how you're describing it, she's most likely disappointed. You have to understand that it can't be 'her fault' if you know what i mean, the man has to be the initiator most of the time then she won't feel like a slut.

Just take the lead and the responsibility, you have nothing to lose.

Hope that helps :-)

Do some old MM shit and tell her you are taking a bath, then call her in to scrub your back..lol

well I made my move this weekend after we went out for the day... swing and a miss. But I feel better for it, I kind of just want to go out and get on it with some completely new people now.

Thanks a lot for your responses though guys, it was getting a little ridiculous.

Good on you. Time to get going with the millions of other hot chicks.

Next time you will know that you have to signal your intent way earlier, if not straight away. That killer instinct comes so much easier when you have gone direct from the start.

yeah. I do want that. But I have no idea where to start. I think I have a lot of internal blocks to deal with first