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18-01-2011, 10:49 PM
Guys I am so depressed today, my housemate has just done something thats really annoyed and saddened me. He purposely made his girlfriend really cry, shouted at her about not listening to his instructions, and then rewarded her later compliance and apologising with praise and fake apology. Rathr than remember what he just did, she reacts by trying to please him and begins nostalgicly recalling how they so romantically met.
I saw real similarities to training an animal and it depressed me at how simple the method and how she reacted with relief that the verbal bashing had stopped and apologised to him. Like a beaten wife being pleased that her husband has gone ten minutes without whacking her and tells herself she really loves him for it. Awful shit. What annoys me is its just a form of male leading that all puas must master in order to pull. Your thoughts?  The Fuckest Uppest
    
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18-01-2011, 10:58 PM
Sounds like he's trying almost Pavlovian Conditioning on her. Not cool. She's a fucking person after all. It's definitely not the kind of leading PUA's need to learn. Major difference.
Did you put him straight about it? Sorry, but it sounds like your housemate is a douche, end of.
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18-01-2011, 11:21 PM
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I want to be the best man i can be, picking up women is somthing that is a 'part' of being a man, it comes Naturally - having corny lines and crappy openers isnt about being a man at all. so onto my point... You should have opened your mouth and intervened, one thing i hate more than anything is somone taking advantage/bullying somone in a weaker position than they are. Now im not perfect and i havnt always intervened-- but it is somthing i would like to work on. Yes it may ahve made things very difficult for you as he is your house mate-- but does some small part of you wish you had said/done somthing? Either of them probably wouldnt ahve thanked you-- but you would know you have done the right thing inside. you would have also gained some respect What do you think? -- i am semi playing devils advocate here too
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18-01-2011, 11:25 PM
THE REASON MARRIAGE IS MADE A JOKE OF, IS THE DOGS LIFE A MAN GETS...
WHERE DO YOU THINK YOUR GOING, UR NOT GOING OUT BLAH BLAH.. dog training.... men end up surpressed by womens constant nagging... stop being a bunch of KNIGHT IN SHININ ARMOUR PUSSIES... he has respect, and a bird... u need to take note... he didnt hit her... but he is making sure she knows who is boss.. this should be true of u all honestly, when u get fucked over by a girl for bein nice... u will look back an think. Women are CUNTS and will walk on u given the chance.
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18-01-2011, 11:47 PM
kowalski... the thing is mate... if u dont get treated like a dick by girls, then u do something along them lines similar without knowing it....
in a relationship ur either in control or out of it... and ive never ever seen any diff!
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19-01-2011, 04:28 AM
I guess it comes down to the fact in a relationship two sets of opinions are operating. One reality has to beat the other for the relationship to continue. You cant both lead, so there is a competition between the two people. One person usually wins more than the other. I'm pretty sure that this is a pure example of the control psychology at the heart of all relationships and that I dont have a girlfriend and he does because I am not controlling enough with things in my life. I dont present a strong enough, cohesive reality for others to fall into line with.
I intervened a bit by refusing to get involved in their 'make up' stage where the loser of the fight is rewarded for accepting the dominant opinion and everything is fun and entertaining again. But will have to apologise for doing this later or get kicked out for being a moody and having opposing reality views. Niether of them would have thanked me for properly intervening as this is a common dynamic between them. It just depresses me 1) that humans are so easily conditionable 2) that I cant do it better to girls. The hypocracy! Cheers for your responses, The Fuckest Uppest
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19-01-2011, 07:47 AM
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The people who try to control their partners in this way are probably insecure in themselves so have to put on some overbearing bravado in order to force some feeling of self worth. I've seen a load of guys like this recently. They were on Tool Academy.
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19-01-2011, 08:08 AM
True there is a fine line between being in control and controlling. We don't know the ins and outs here nor know any exact details so we cant really determine whats happening.
What I will say is you'll never logic her into thinking its wrong, no matter how much you explain it to her she'll just keep feeling she wants him so she'll stay there. The only thing you can ever do if he crosses an obvious abusive line is to stand up to him and protect her from abuse. But you also have to consider that you must be sure your views are unbiased, and also may ruin your friendship with him. But it might even back fire and then she dislikes you too?
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19-01-2011, 08:18 AM
You dont need to control any girl - emphasis on the word 'NEED'
Just be True to yourself and what you want, define your own reality and dont get caught up in petty games and power struggles. In response to Phils comment-- i would only add, the only pussy in that situation would be you sat there doing nothing other than being a Beta Male. You are not 'saving' her by getting involved and sucking up to her-- you are just being Alpha and doing what a Leader does. all imo
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