Going back to the debate on looks. If you are good looking enough you can literally get away with murder. These two guys had women fighting each other just to be near them!

TED BUNDY, 1978
The devil knows when to look attractive. And Ted Bundy was handsome and cultured and charming. Until he was strangling and mutilating his victims, displaying their lopped-off heads in his apartment and sleeping with their corpses until putrefaction made it unbearable. Then he was simply the devil. By 1989, when he was executed in the electric chair in Florida at the age of 43, he had confessed to just about 30 murders but there could have been at least four more. He was an insatiable killer. One theory has him killing as early as the age of 14, but Bundy -- who chose to divulge many of his secrets as he tried to bargain for more time before execution -- never confessed to that incident. As a law student, Bundy had been arrested on a kidnapping charge in 1975 and was awaiting trial for murder in December 1977 when he escaped. From January to February of 1978, he went on a spree of killing and rape. Among his victims was a 12-year-old girl. Finally brought to trial, he acted as his own defense lawyer in a mesmerizing televised legal proceeding. And despite the horror of his acts, he proposed marriage to and wed a former coworker from behind bars. He also received thousands of letters from female fans. At the end, though, his appeals were exhausted and his attempts to manipulate the system became tiresome. His wife divorced him and took custody of their child. Somewhere out there is a young woman who may not know that her father was the devil.


Richard Ramirez (One of the women jury who found him guilty actually fell in love with him because of his devilishly good looks):

YouTube - A Conversation with Richard Ramirez--The Night Stalker--Reported by Mike Watkiss

On the other hand, how about this 60 year old fat grey haired dude Goel Ratzon who kept a harem of 32 women who worshipped him like a god?

YouTube - Polygamous Sex Maniac Cult Leader Arrested in Israel

Fucked up beyond all belief!

Richard Ramirez gets married and breaks the hearts of many women.

Night Stalker: Richard Ramirez, famous satanic serial killer — "Satanists Don't Wear Gold" — Crime Library on truTV.com

Not this again!!

I don't get this "looks" thing on here.

Is it that people are justifying their perceived lack of success with women on their looks?

ie. "It's not my fault I don't score that much saucy action, it's because I was born with this "last-potato-in-the-sack" face.
(and nothing to do with the fact that i don't approach hot girls)


Limiting belief I reckon

El Scampo

actually scamp.. i perceive myself as good looking, and dont think id be anywer near as successful if i didnt keep myself looking well

hahah no kowalski, its just that people IGNORE where it mentions grooming coz they are under the PUA spell that WORDS WILL PREVAIL, AND ROUTINES RULE THE ROOST.

kowalski is a prime example scamp... he looks like slash from guns & roses & jeremy beadles love child

That sounds more like me

I was more interested in the above guys because they are egomaniacs. This is a condition otherwise known as NPD; narcissistic personality disorder. It is so powerful that they draw other people into their reality, hypnotising them into become helpless devotees.

It's interesting because these guys are often psychos but they get the chicks. In fact they inspire helpless love. Charles Manson, Richard Ramirez, Goel Ratzon, Ted Bundy, David Berg... the list goes on.

It's fucked up; a dangerous personality disorder that gets you laid loads.

Good point Midas.

Getting away from the Extreme examples mentioned, I would say Narcisissm is actually good for getting the ol' happy stick action.

Russell Brand pour example'

Scamperini

It is good. The point is; too much of a good thing can become a bad thing. However, as men who would like to attract more women, I think we can learn something from these nutters!!!